That was quite possibly the worst press conference in the history of Michigan football
January 5th, 2011 at 5:38 PM ^
Seeing how family members in the same age group tweet and use facebook, I was just assuming an aversion to commas.
I don't remember seeing "salty" used in that manner. More used to "I'm salty" or "made him salty," etc.
I could be wrong.
January 5th, 2011 at 6:57 PM ^
I agree with your take completely.
January 5th, 2011 at 4:59 PM ^
Michael Cox had some choice words for RR today as well. I don't think they were classy, but what it does seem to indicate is that a segment of the team stopped buying in. When that happens, the coach is in trouble.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:00 PM ^
What did he say? I guess when it rains it pours . . . We haven't really heard from any inside that did not like him (other than the transferers).
January 5th, 2011 at 5:05 PM ^
He said "Bye Bye Coach Rod . . . party at my house!"
January 5th, 2011 at 5:24 PM ^
Makes some sense, since he didn't play much.
January 5th, 2011 at 7:24 PM ^
The quote from Mike Cox is....
"BYE BYE DICK ROD! finally, party at my crib ha ha"
January 5th, 2011 at 7:37 PM ^
Not getting enough playing time (at least in your opinion) will do that to you.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:29 PM ^
Cox was buried as like the 6th string running back and probably thinks he should be starting. Him being happy about a coaching change pretty unsurprising.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:04 PM ^
I saw the tweet, I think he meant to say he was salty not RR. It would be hard for me to believe that Roundtree would be salty when he did so well in the offense. Did anyone see any of his other tweets?
January 5th, 2011 at 4:41 PM ^
This has probably been mentioned before, but in my drunken despair I looked up (yeah, I ain't got much work done in the last two daze) the hiring process for Jim Tressel, and it made me feel better...
Cooper - fired after Outback Bowl...
Tressel - hired January 18...
That's worked out pretty okay for tOSU, even if the fanbase wanted the usual suspects (I'm sure Gruden was on the list) at the time...
This information helped...or was it the Jager? Either way, I guess...
January 5th, 2011 at 4:47 PM ^
so who's our tressel?
and if you say brady hoke, i will punch you right in the babymaker.
January 5th, 2011 at 6:10 PM ^
Already produced my children, so I won't call your bluff...
I have no idea, but Hoke doesn't have Tressel's track record (even if it was at YSU - a bunch of national championships is still a bunch of national championships)...
January 5th, 2011 at 4:54 PM ^
The final four candidates were Gruden, Bellotti, Glen Mason and Tressel. Gruden and Bellotti backed out so it came down to the last two.
There were issues though, they lost some players and recruits and struggled through their first year to go 7-5 (big win was us). Then they brought in some fantastic freshman (clarett) and went 14-0 on the way to the national title. Obviously great but it was a scratch and claw - 7 wins by 7 points or less and two OT wins. Then he got it rolling and has been dominant since (8 bcs bowls in 10 years).
January 5th, 2011 at 5:36 PM ^
The classes that Tressel inherited on that first team produced 27 NFL draft picks his first three seasons. If both Schilling and Mouton get drafted this year, that will make 7 Michigan draft picks in the same time span. Only one of those guys was a first day pick and another was a punter.
January 6th, 2011 at 12:04 AM ^
And people say the cupboard was bare. Psh.
And even if we count Mallett, Arrington, Manningham, and Boren, RichRod still didn't get much.
January 5th, 2011 at 4:42 PM ^
small g, so stop praying. I'm with Lou Holtz on this one, M fans getting what they deserve (glory days are over) because of impatience, entitled attitude, refusal to really support this young team. Like a young bride who leaves after 3yrs for a BBD (bigger better deal). It never works out and M is now screwed for a long time. Maybe the next coach will buy me flowers and pick up his underwear....haha hahah hahah
January 5th, 2011 at 5:13 PM ^
Judging from your first sentence, it seems your priorities are just a tad askew. It's football. It's not life or death. Both Michigan and RR will bounce back.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:17 PM ^
Maybe you should pretend like MGoBlog is still on ultra lock-down and not post, chief.
January 5th, 2011 at 4:42 PM ^
We will suck. We will suck worse than we would have sucked with RR at the helm. That was true if this was handled well and now it is def true. We might suck for three or four more years. That, however, can't be the judge of this decision.
What matters is getting someone who can stay here for a decade or more and be Tressell-like (dominate the Big Ten, only ocassionaly compete for NCs because let's be honest thats all Bo did and all anyone can do with as little talent as there is in the state/area). Which means that as absurd as a coaching search is right now, getting the right one is more important than getting the one soon. Because we're fucked for the next year or so anyway. Let's just be good a decade from now.
January 5th, 2011 at 4:45 PM ^
That's a ridiculous statement. I know what you are trying to say, but if we "suck" for 3-4 years, I'm officially cutting all ties with Michigan (including turning in my diploma) and throwing all of my support behind Ohio State. F- it.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^
fuck you.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:36 PM ^
There may not be negs available, but the MODs can still drop the ban-hammer. Keep it clean and appropriate.
January 5th, 2011 at 7:45 PM ^
You do realize what you actually wrote above, right? I'm pissed, as are many others, but we have no choice but to accept this and hope that the situation is handled as well as it may be. I'd lose a lot of faith, but I'd never switch sides.
RR was railroaded, and it's not right, but at this point it is what it is.
January 5th, 2011 at 9:31 PM ^
C'mon. Even if the sarcasm was severe, I was clearly being sarcastic. Do I think this is probably the worst thing I've ever lived through as it pertains to Michigan football? Yes. Will I turn in my diploma and support OSU? Obviously not. Even if I was being serious, it would not warrant a personal attack of such a nature. It was inappropriate and, to be honest, personally offensive (this coming from a guy who uses the f- word regularly).
January 5th, 2011 at 5:02 PM ^
January 5th, 2011 at 4:43 PM ^
DB has the uneviable task of determining the future of the Michigan football program for the long term. The RR era set Michigan back. I like RR but there were too many things not working out for him and yes he made bad decisions especially in selecting his staff. While our current recruiting class will be effected, I believe that it will not be as badly impacted as everyone thinks. DB will strive to select the best available coach, pay him well, and leverage his recruiting network. You can be sure the new hire will strive to keep the current players, and will contact the recruits who have committed/decommitted. Undoubtably, he will also contact some prospects that he was trying to recruit to his current school. Some players will stick to Michigan because its Michigan, some will decide to go elsewhere (Dee Hart) and some will be on the fence until the new coach is chosen. Let's see how it plays out. Remember this decision is not just about the current recruiting class. It is about building the long term success of the program. That starts with choosing a great coach. As fans we need to support the program and give DB a chance to prove that he made the best decision possible given the situation. It is too late to complain about the timeline. It is what it is. Now we need to get it right. I would not be surprised if we have a new coach by January 12th. Chris Singletary will stay as recruiting coordinator and I would not be surprised if Fred jackson will stay on as well in a recruiting capacity.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:03 PM ^
The day Rodriguez coached his first game, we had RS freshman Steve Threet as the only scholarship QB on the roster, two 4-star RB's who spent their first two seasons as distant backups to Mike Hart, a completely imploded offensive line, junior Greg Matthews, one first day draft pick on defense and 5-6 fringe NFL prospects in the sophomore, junior, and senior classes.
As of right now, the new coach is looking at inheriting two junior 4-star QB's who have combined to throw for over 5,400 yards as underclassmen, and a RS freshman 4-star recruit who got some game experience this year as well. Those two QB's have also rushed for over 2,300 yards as underclassmen. The receiving corps returns five upperclassmen at WR and a senior TE who accounted for over 2,800 yards combined this past season, in addition to a number of talented recruits. The offensive line returns three starters, Mark Huyge who has starting experience, Khoury who played most if not all of the Purdue game, and a number of 4-star recruits with multiple years on campus (Campbell, Barnum, Mealer). All but Lewan will be upperclassmen.
On defense senior multi-year starters RVB and Mike Martin return and junior multi-year starter Craig Roh does as well. Kenny Demens returns as a junior at middle linebacker. Loads of talented young players with game experience return in the secondary along with highly rated prospects Robinson, Furman, Ash, Washington, Wilkins, etc.
Anyone who says we are in a worse situation because of Rich Rodriguez is either uninformed, a liar, or a complete fucking asshole.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:11 PM ^
Whoever the new coach is will be "opening a cupboard" that is much less bare than than the one RR found.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:21 PM ^
Sorry but that simply isn't true. But it doesn't matter anymore. Still did you watch Ohio State last night? Heck did you see Arkansas? The size and explosiveness on their defenses was noticably superior to ours.
Rebuilding this defense and special teams with necessary depth will take years.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:29 PM ^
A couple of BCS Bowl teams with rosters stocked with upperclassmen looked better than Michigan did this year? That means we are doomed for years to come? That somehow relates to whether or not the Michigan roster is stronger today than it was when Rodriguez coached his first game?
I can see that MSU education has paid off.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:51 PM ^
You weren't so skeptical about the D when you had JH penciled in at HC the last couple months. Guess you were wrong. You are the wishy washy flip flopping dumb ass Michigan -so-called-fans I wish would just disappear. You know how many points I have given up by negging you?.... and come to think of it I think this is the first time I haven't.
January 5th, 2011 at 7:49 PM ^
A defense composed of mostly uppperclassmen vs. mostly freshmen, sophmore's and a few upperclassmen. Yeah, you make such a good point Nate.
January 5th, 2011 at 9:58 PM ^
January 5th, 2011 at 5:13 PM ^
Lowest winning percentage in 130 years of football, 15-22 overall, 6-18 in the Big Ten, worst defense in Michigan history. Yes, the program has been set back. We are in a worse situation than we were before Rodriguez came: That much is undeniable.
At this point, it's irrelevant if you want to blame the previous successful coach for this.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
Every time you speak you confirm your incredible intelligence.
January 5th, 2011 at 8:56 PM ^
Dude these are the exact same facts that DB pointed out and I trust in him a lot more than I trust in you. Get over richrod or follow him to the next fanbase.
January 5th, 2011 at 11:02 PM ^
Dave Brandon quotes Wikipedia? That MUST make his word more credible than the other random message board guy that quotes Wikipedia!
/s
January 5th, 2011 at 7:39 PM ^
Yet you seem to completely avoid the roster situation.
Seems fitting that you'd ignore reality.
January 5th, 2011 at 4:49 PM ^
...the hypocrisy in some of you? 3 years ago, we went nuts when Coleman and Martin did a below average job at evaluating our needs and decided to overhaul our program, unwarranted and completely unnecessary. We pushed Carr out before his bowl game without any sort of plan in place to replace him. Now, it seems that Brandon is a very bright guy who knows what it takes to build something and evidently did a proper and professional evaluation of RichRod. He came to the conclusion that the current program was not going in the proper direction and needed new leadership. Unlike Coleman and Martin, he is being very prudent and patient about making the appropriate decisions in the best interest of the University and our storied football program. So let's stop bashing the guy for not hiring someone in haste just because it doesn't satisfy us diehard fans. Coleman and Martin made that mistake once and look where it got us.....let's all relax and let the man do his job; he's proven to be a solid leader thus far.
January 5th, 2011 at 4:54 PM ^
somehow, I cannot see the wisdom in firing a coach who is at the third or fourth best plausible option for the job at the current moment when the top 2 or 3 candidates have made it clear they're not interested in us.
firing the guy for the sake of firing him is fine and well if you have someone equal or better ready to take his place. when there's no one there, its flat out lunacy.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:32 PM ^
Some of us act that RichRod's offensive "genius" exists in a vaccuum and no else can coach these types of players. There are plenty of other coaches out there who can win with these kids and also not be stubborn enough to admit that something's wrong and to make adjustments accordingly. I never heard RichRod ever admit to being outcoached or ill-prepared. I'm sorry but every good coach admits that now and again. He was hell-bent on blaming the lack of execution or lack of personnel. After 3+ years of recruiting and instilling a philosophy, it's his personnel now.
January 5th, 2011 at 7:06 PM ^
its lunacy because there's no one better than him who is willing to take the job.
can you honestly look me in the eye (metaphorically), and tell me that brady hoke will be able to do a better job as head coach than rich rodriguez in 2011 and 2012?
ill put it to you this way. say you own a car which has an old stereo system in it. now that stereo system has a cd player which keeps on skipping. so when you eventually get fed up with it, do you rip the damn thing out, throw it by the side of the road, and then try to figure out what to do? of course you dont, because thats insane. you instead do your research beforehand, choose the model you want, make sure that model is in stock and at a reasonable price, and then you have it professionally installed.
January 5th, 2011 at 7:47 PM ^
People seem to think that we have to fire RR because "it can't get any worse." Believe me, it can always get worse. I am not saying that firing RR was the wrong decision. The fact that DB seems to have no plan in place is what has a lot of people panicking. I guess DB could be one hell of a poker player and lay down a monster hand like Mike McD at the end of Rounders. But right now I don't see that happening.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:04 PM ^
Do you not remember the horror, or Oregon, or four straight losses to OSU, or repetitive beat downs by USC in the Rose Bowl? The program had stagnated and slipped. Hadn't beaten an elite team in ages. The idea to tear down and rebuild the program was not unwarranted.
And let me get this straight, Carr retiring in the middle of November followed by a full scale coaching search beginning before Thanksgiving is "not having a plan in place," but waiting until Jan. 5 to make a decision is somehow evidence of being prudent?
This might work out. We might get a coach we want. But it's hard to argue that everyone would have been better off if a definitive determination of Rodriguez's job status had been determined the week following the OSU game.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:37 PM ^
I seem to have forgotten the part where we "pushed Lloyd out before his bowl game." For crying out loud, the guy retired, informing Martin of this decision before the season began. Which furthers your point that Martin didn't exactly do a swell job on the coaching search, but it's hard to say Brandon's doing a lot better. He can still finish strong (and quickly, I hope), but he's dug a big hole for himself.
January 5th, 2011 at 9:28 PM ^
...the fans, the administration, some of the old-guard absolutely pushed Carr out the door. Any denial of that is upsurd. I was part of it too. I won't deny I was part of the fanbase that wanted him to move on too but I just wanted someone who was alittle more energetic and inspired to get his hands dirty while not revamping the entire program. Many of us seem to forget that when LC was in his hay-day, we won numerous bowl games including four against coveted SEC squads. The talent was still there, but the passion and fire wasn't. All Martin and Coleman had to do was hire someone within or someone with UM ties and Mallett, Arrington, Manningham, Boren etc etc etc would have stayed and would have known the system and philosopy and we wouldn't be sitting here talking about this three years later. I said it day one and I will say it again, hiring outside of our base was the silliest thing that any of us could have hoped for.
January 6th, 2011 at 12:15 AM ^
The only absurd part of your post was your spelling of "absurd."
January 6th, 2011 at 9:18 AM ^
I have just awarded you EleventyBillion® invisible MGoPoints.
January 5th, 2011 at 4:52 PM ^
Can we go back to Dec 2007 and start over? I had some kids along the way so I'll promise to try for twins again and all.
Rich Rod for Brady Hoke? Really?