Was Peppers' near INT a lateral?
When I went and rewatched the game I kept rewinding Peppers jumping the play and through my maize colored glasses, this looks like a lateral to me. Leidner's front foot is on the 41 when he throws it and Jabrill puts his hands on it on the 40 yard line. The intended receiver had to turn around to try and catch it because the ball was thrown behind him. Even if it is from the 41 to the 41 it does not get thrown forward. This would have been nice to have seen reviewed. With the whistle we could have had the ball on the 30 where he gained possession of it.
I made a GIF of it and hopefully one of these two links works.
November 1st, 2015 at 2:38 PM ^
That's what I thought at the time. I was surprised it wasn't reviewed.
November 1st, 2015 at 2:50 PM ^
Are you REALLY surprised?
November 1st, 2015 at 2:39 PM ^
November 1st, 2015 at 2:40 PM ^
No. The GIF makes it very obvious that the ball traveled from behind Leidner's body forward toward the line of scrimmage.
November 1st, 2015 at 2:48 PM ^
Not really. I think it's either a perfect lateral, or inches forward. Not very clear at all. Should have at least been reviewed.
November 1st, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^
November 1st, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^
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November 1st, 2015 at 2:42 PM ^
Looks slightly forward
November 1st, 2015 at 2:45 PM ^
. . . is passé
November 1st, 2015 at 2:47 PM ^
November 1st, 2015 at 2:51 PM ^
Definitely not complaining in any way, but Peppers has dropped at least two that would have gone for six this season. If/when he can fix that (or maybe he's just caught a couple unlikly bad breaks), he'll be even more ridiculous out there.
November 1st, 2015 at 2:54 PM ^
He can catch punts on the fly but he seems to have trouble hanging on to the interceptions. Last night it looked like the gopher might have gotten his hand on the ball or Pepper's arm, which may have been a factor. Bad camera angle.
November 1st, 2015 at 2:59 PM ^
Like you say, he's good with punts, so I think until we see more we can chalk it up to bad luck on an extremely limited sample size.
November 1st, 2015 at 3:20 PM ^
has muffed at least 2 kicks now; msu and minn.
November 1st, 2015 at 11:41 PM ^
November 1st, 2015 at 3:01 PM ^
He just mistimed his jump and the Lewis made up for it on the next play.
This one looked even easier, but the replay shows the WR grabs his left arm (which is legal because Jabrill has tipped the ball).
If it's his right arm being grabbed he still may be able to cradle the ball with his left and make the one armed INT...but it with being is left arm and the ball going in that direction...he really didn't have as much of a change as I originally thought.
You can especially see this because he tries to catch the ball with both hands...which in retrospect, if would've been better to try to do what they teach you NOT to do, and catch it with his body. With his hands turned out, it became too tough to make the one handed grab with his right.
That said...has one team completed a meaningful screen against Peppers?
November 1st, 2015 at 3:02 PM ^
Any realistic person should be thrilled with Peppers this season (maybe that BYU receiver he picked up and threw out of bounds has a complaint...).
Just pointing out that he's riiiiiiight there on the edge of taking his play to another level.
November 1st, 2015 at 3:06 PM ^
You don't want to try to catch with your body, especially at that range.
November 1st, 2015 at 2:54 PM ^
Ball is released from Leidner's hands around the 35-35.25 yard line. Peppers touches it right at the 36
November 1st, 2015 at 2:54 PM ^
He's standing on the 41, his arm brings the ball back to the 40...and Peppers gets it on the 41.
Regardless, it should've been reviewed. Peppers also has to take it to the house and make it feel like a lateral and start pointing up at the video board for them to review it.
How many times do you see a player do this and then all of a sudden an official comes running in from the sideline waiving his hands in the air?
November 1st, 2015 at 2:56 PM ^
35 and 36 but yea i agree, a one yard pass
November 1st, 2015 at 2:58 PM ^
I was going off the OP...but yea...from I think both were standing on the 36...but the QBs arm releases the ball on the 35, which makes sense when you think about a 6'4 man.
November 1st, 2015 at 4:27 PM ^
November 1st, 2015 at 2:56 PM ^
5 yards apart. How can that be.
November 1st, 2015 at 2:55 PM ^
November 1st, 2015 at 6:10 PM ^
when an officiating crew f***s up, they promote them.
November 1st, 2015 at 8:27 PM ^
Delaney is just happy the refs don't suspend him
November 1st, 2015 at 2:56 PM ^
Looks like he knew what the play was 100%. Made a half-step to the left to juke the defender then blew by on the right and nearly caught the ball in stride. Absolutely no hesitation on his part, he was stepping forward from the snap
November 1st, 2015 at 2:57 PM ^
The first one didn't go to a valid URL for some reason, but the second one is fine...
November 1st, 2015 at 3:02 PM ^
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November 1st, 2015 at 3:08 PM ^
Maybe get that annual eye exam. Just sayin.
November 1st, 2015 at 3:32 PM ^
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November 1st, 2015 at 3:39 PM ^
He's clearly at the 36 when he lets it go. Peppers is at the 36 when he touches the ball, which he does with his hands that are in front of his body. I do not see a forward pass.
November 1st, 2015 at 4:36 PM ^
November 1st, 2015 at 4:46 PM ^
Doesn't matter where Leidner or Peppers are. The ball left Leidner's hand at the 35 and the ball hit Peppers hands at the 36.
November 1st, 2015 at 10:11 PM ^
I explained it above but thanks for the help
November 1st, 2015 at 5:48 PM ^
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November 1st, 2015 at 2:57 PM ^
still a rediculas play that he was even in a spot to make thay play
November 1st, 2015 at 3:20 PM ^
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November 1st, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^
November 1st, 2015 at 3:06 PM ^
That was close. It should have been reviewed though. It may be forward by a few inches, but it was definitely worth a look though. Hard to tell from that camera angle.
November 1st, 2015 at 3:10 PM ^
November 1st, 2015 at 3:16 PM ^
Would we have to challenge, or is the decision made by the officials? Because if the coach has to challenge I believe that we couldn't--we used a challenge earlier in the game. FWIW, I don't think this play would have been overturned, but that's why I think maybe we shouldn't have used the challenge on the earlier play.
November 1st, 2015 at 4:14 PM ^
on that fumble/throw by rudock earlier in the game. probably the one time i have disagreed with JH in any particular about his coaching.
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