Vlad Emilien
October 13th, 2009 at 3:31 PM ^
Vlad not be ready for playin
He probably play Saturday
October 13th, 2009 at 4:59 PM ^
You be thinkin JT Turner bouts to play too?
October 13th, 2009 at 3:32 PM ^
FWIW I am friends with Vlad on facebook and on one of his status updates the other day he was talking to a kid about why he wasn't getting more PT and his response was: "I'm just waiting my turn man".
October 13th, 2009 at 4:08 PM ^
likes this.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:43 AM ^
I dont understand. lots of funny, or incisive posts get jack and this is 18 points? what am I fundamentally not understanding?
October 14th, 2009 at 9:27 AM ^
Your first fundamental problem is that you're talking about something that is jejune.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:23 AM ^
1st rule of MgoPoints: Don't talk about MgoPoints. Yeesh.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:33 AM ^
FWIW, I agree.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:45 AM ^
If you're not getting this, you're getting old, FA.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:35 PM ^
I bet we see him play Saturday.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:38 PM ^
He'll get his turn Saturday.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:42 PM ^
Vlad's an interesting case and this Saturday will tell everything.
There were rumors that his knee was still causing him problems and that he wasn't a full go. But on the other hand he played in the first four games on special teams. However, he has not played in the last two, which is where it gets interesting. If I recall correctly, you can get a medical redshirt if you're hurt and don't play after game 4. If he plays Saturday, then that is obviously out the window. But if he doesn't play, then I wonder if UM is setting it up to apply for a medical redshirt with him due to his knee.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:45 PM ^
Interesting.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:25 PM ^
This is from a waiver request packet:
"In order to be eligible for a medical hardship waiver, a student-athlete must have competed in at least one contest in the first half of the season, but no more than three contests or 30%, whichever is greater (14.2.4). The total number of contests is calculated by the schedule on the first date of competition. Participation in Conference postseason is counted as one competition."
https://admin.xosn.com/pdf6/104652.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=600 [PDF]
[EDIT] I thought you only were allowed 3 games in football, but this is from USC's official blog:
"So, in the cases of Johnson, [defensive tackle Hebron] Fangupo and [safety Marshall] Jones, all played in either three or four games, which qualifies them for a hardship since 30 percent of a 12 game season is 3.6, which is rounded up to four games. A bowl game would make the season 13 games, and 30 percent of that is 3.9, which is again rounded up to four games. Either way, all three players meet the criteria for a medical hardship under the NCAA rules."
http://www.usctrojans.com/blog/2009/09/potential-exists-for-more-eligib…
October 13th, 2009 at 4:26 PM ^
12 * 30% = 3.6. 3.6 > 3. Do they round up or down?
EDIT: And you updated your post to answer that.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:20 PM ^
... your power of deduction reminds me of this:
But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:50 AM ^
I noticed the same with Hawthorne: played first four games on special teams, but not the last two. But Mike Jones HAS played in all games. So no redshirt for him.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:43 PM ^
Interest fact. Vlad the Impaler is aka Count Dracula.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:45 PM ^
It was for this reason, that after not seeing him play against Iowa, I don't think we see him play this year. That was, in all likelihood, our last night game of the season.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:25 PM ^
As long as he's not Edward Cullen... hate that fictional douche...
October 13th, 2009 at 4:51 PM ^
You should not be familiar with that name. Nor should I.
October 13th, 2009 at 11:52 PM ^
I just had to look it up. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:25 AM ^
I know... I... Know...
October 13th, 2009 at 4:53 PM ^
No joke, my girlfriend almost dumped me because I was not more like Edward Cullen.
Yes, I've got a winner...well, did. We are no longer together.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:56 PM ^
Good for you! I don't know you but I couldn't be happier for you.
October 13th, 2009 at 6:21 PM ^
Haha, thanks. We dated forever, but its time to move on when your girl wants you to be more like a super hero vampire Casanova.
October 14th, 2009 at 12:46 AM ^
A Michigan Student is way cooler then Edward
October 13th, 2009 at 3:44 PM ^
plus being a true freshman, I'm hardly surprised.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:56 PM ^
Kovacs is one of the best safeties in the country!
October 13th, 2009 at 4:01 PM ^
And don't forget that HE'S A WALK ON!!!!! I can hardly believe he slipped through the cracks. It's almost as if Tate's moxie has rubbed off on even the lowliest of UM players.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:48 AM ^
dont get me wrong, our "Rudy" can play...but he doesnt have the speed to be a top safety. Was it Indiana where the running back just outran Kovacs' angle on the long TD play?
October 13th, 2009 at 3:59 PM ^
for the sake of the future, i hope the redshirt both vlad and turner, if they can.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:01 PM ^
Might as well hold him out for a redshirt now, unless we suffer some more injuries.
October 13th, 2009 at 4:21 PM ^
special teams
October 13th, 2009 at 4:29 PM ^
above
ps - Sorry, couldn't resist the temptation to MGoObe MgoObes :P
October 13th, 2009 at 4:33 PM ^
the way that you think
October 13th, 2009 at 4:48 PM ^
i love it
October 13th, 2009 at 4:25 PM ^
I hope vlad and turner redshirt. Oh and let everyone pray to the conerback gods that D. Warren stays for his senior year lol
October 13th, 2009 at 4:55 PM ^
Vlad cannot redshirt because he has been playing special teams, but I do agree that I hope Turner redshirts. I'd much rather him be a redshirt freshman with a full 4 years of eligibility ahead of him, then a sophomore with 3 years of eligibility ahead of him.
October 13th, 2009 at 5:13 PM ^
I read all the posts, and I still don't understand if Vlad can still redshirt or not. In how many games did he participate? If I remember correctly, he didn't play the first two games, and I also don't remember him playing in the last two. I wish somebody could ask Rich about this next Monday in the press conference, but then we will probably figure it out after we watch Saturday's game.
October 13th, 2009 at 5:23 PM ^
if he obtains a medical waiver. Otherwise he cannot.
He has played in the first four games (participation charts below) but has not played in the last 2. As discussed above, as long as he plays in no more than 30% of the games (4 games) and is hurt/injured/unable to play, he can apply for a medical redshirt. This is what Hemingway did last year, for example.
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/090509aaa.html
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091209aaa.html
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091909aaa.html
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/092609aaa.html
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100309aaa.html
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101009aaa.html
October 13th, 2009 at 6:48 PM ^
Thank you for the explanation!
October 13th, 2009 at 11:03 PM ^
If he's played in 4 games already, that's 33%, obviously above the 30% allowed. Unless I'm missing something, he's already lost the year. I know from experience that the NCAA follows these rules to a "T". And, IIRC, the 30% only includes regular season scheduled games.
October 13th, 2009 at 11:14 PM ^
3.6 gets rounded up to 4, so with a twelve game schedule, you can play the first four games and still get a medical redshirt.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:57 AM ^
Does it say that in the NCAA bylaws? Or is this just assumed to be correct? Yeah, I saw the USC thing, but that hardly reassures me.
I just know, in another sport, I got screwed over by a technicality, and didn't receive a medical redshirt and lost a year of eligibility.
EDIT:
Bylaw 14.2.4.3.6.2 States the fraction of the percent limitation is rounded up.
October 13th, 2009 at 6:41 PM ^
I was in the dark about the redshirting requirements prior to this year, but "me" has it right.
I'd rather it be that you can play a certain percentage of the season and still redshirt, it would allow the coaches some room to figure out their best starting lineups and what freshman/sophomores need more time to develop physically and mentally. I think it would act as a NFL preseason for coaches, and could very well cut down on injuries to the players that are underdeveloped and not physically ready for college football. This is why I think RR is so in favor of a college football preseason. It allows the coaches to learn more about their players, especially the young ones.
October 13th, 2009 at 7:45 PM ^
If Vlad and Turner are ready to help the team immediately, I would like to see them, and I believe we would. I care about winning games now, not whether or not they have an extra season on the back end. Why? Winning games now ultimately makes the necessary impression(s) to help get the recruits that Michigan needs to restock the team, so that when Vlad and JT are done, Michigan will have high-caliber replacements in th wings.
Think about the "what ifs" regarding some of the safety and coverage failures thus far, and then try to explain to yourself why games in the balance would not necessitate putting the best players on the field (if they are, in fact, on the sideline).
RR is not going to be thinking about next year. He is going to play them as soon as they are the best option.
October 13th, 2009 at 6:33 PM ^
I love the idea of Turner being a lock down corner, and I love it even more if we have 4 years of eligibility after Donovan leaves.
October 13th, 2009 at 8:44 PM ^
Don't be so secure in that. If Warren leaves he's gone after his third year, and even if we redshirt Turner, if he's as good as everyone hopes he will be, he could leave after 2011 or 2012.
For that reason, if it's possible, get him on the field - there's still 6 games and a bowl for him to get experience for 2010.
October 13th, 2009 at 6:39 PM ^
Vlad will get his turn. We need to remember that very, very few Freshman are ever ready to see the field. Especially if they don't enroll early.