USC considering Dave Aranda/a look at how Aranda responded to last year's blowout loss to OSU
I don't know how to embed a tweet, but Bruce Feldman reported last week that USC is looking at Dave Aranda. Sam Webb referenced the report this AM.
Bruce Feldman @BruceFeldmanCFB Dec 9 Name that I hear #USC may pursue for its DC job: #Wisconsin's Dave Aranda. Does a terrific job w/ Badgers & went to college at Cal Lutheran. https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB
Another Aranda note: Below is a an piece about Aranda's response to being blown out by OSU last year. Wisconsin played Auburn in their bowl, so they were facing a similar offense. Wisconsin beat Auburn 34-31 after losing 59-0 to OSU. For comparison's sake: Auburn' gained 485 yards per game last year. They were 5th in FEI and 4th in S&P+. OSU gained 512 per game. They were 3rd in FEI and 1st in S&P+. Some highlights of the article:
The Badgers played 2-4-5 nickel personnel with cornerback Darius Hillary in the nickel position to allow them to play man coverage on the Buckeye receivers. The outside linebackers, Vince Biegel and Joe Schobert, looked to keep the Ohio State run game forced inside of the tackle box where the inside linebackers and down safety would clean it up.Although they were playing cover 3, the Badgers deep safety would just look to help over the top of the slot receiver or outside receivers on in-breaking routes in the middle of the field. He didn't drop particularly deep so that he could serve as an 8th man in the box so consequently the Badger DBs were totally isolated in man coverage without safety help on any throws outside of the hash marks.
The Buckeyes destroyed this game plan first by attacking the man coverage with play-action, then they took apart the run defense with zone slice and other RB-focused run schemes. The Badger safeties and linebackers struggled to navigate space well and get their hats in the appropriate places to stop the run, partly because they spent their practice week preparing to stop the QB run game.
Against Auburn, the Badgers played a different nickel package and utilized the same 2-4 personnel but with a different approach up front. This time the Badgers played with three safeties rather than three corners, and asked different things of their outside linebackers.The goal remained to keep the ball between the tackles but the Badgers were able to put less stress on the linebackers and safeties by canceling out an interior gap with one of the outside linebackers playing over a tackle as a de-facto defensive end.
After a coverage bust early in the game, they also substituted a new free safety, started playing cover 3, and found a solution that made it very difficult for the Tigers to bust big plays...
With the outside linebacker asked to play inside gaps like a defensive end, the nickel became one of the run-force players. Instead of having an eight man front the Badgers settled for getting seven players into the box but they were actually more successful here in forcing the Tigers to play in tighter spaces and freeing their inside linebackers from having to pick the right gap playing behind only two DL.
More importantly, they were in much better shape against the passing game giving up only 6.9 yards per pass after the initial 66 yard coverage bust. Auburn was still able to run the ball but weren't able to consistently land big punches.
http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2015/7/23/9013753/wisconsins-Badgers-v…
December 14th, 2015 at 11:42 AM ^
Say it with me now, "We want Lance, Lance, Lance...."
December 14th, 2015 at 11:43 AM ^
December 14th, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^
At BYU? Last I heard they are going to hire the Navy coach.
December 14th, 2015 at 10:58 PM ^
But I would've tried to get in and get out without being noticed...
December 14th, 2015 at 12:00 PM ^
Ed Feng follows Stanford very closely and feels that Lance is not so great. Managed to keep the great defense he inherited from Derek Mason going for one year, but this year the wheels fell off. Yes, there were personnel losses (as always in college football), but the fall-off was drastic. Apparently Oregon, Cal and ND ran up and down the field at will.
I'll take Aranda (if we can't get Orlando)... or whomever JH chooses.
December 14th, 2015 at 12:15 PM ^
It seems like whoever JH chooses is going to be Anderson if he doesn't get the BYU job.
December 14th, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
IMO just about any DC would have seen a significant dropoff with the massive personnel changes. Stanford returned three total starters on defense. With that said, I would prefer Aranda because of his more impressive track record.
December 14th, 2015 at 12:29 PM ^
Yes. They went through a strange flip in team identity, sort of the inverse of what NW just went through. They had a terrible offense with a great defense that kept them afloat in 2014, and this year the defense was just bad, but the offense kept them in games. The only reason I would like Anderson is if he truly is an elite recruiter.
December 14th, 2015 at 11:40 AM ^
I want him.
December 14th, 2015 at 11:43 AM ^
but in one game Wisconsin's offense scored 0 points and in the other they scored 34 points. I'd say that had something to do with the win as well. Not only do you need to score to win but I imagine that with the offense controlling the game that much more effectively the defense was given more time to rest and faced fewer plays. So they gave up less points to Auburn (still gave up 31), I wouldn't use this as an example to suggest he is a great DC.
December 14th, 2015 at 11:56 AM ^
Auburn had a good offense, but they are not OSU good.
December 14th, 2015 at 12:10 PM ^
Again name me ANYONE people would be be happy with THAT HAS PLAYED OSU.
The great Vic Fangio gave up 52 pts to Oregon in 2010 - his 1 year at Stanford's DC.
So we should not get Vic Fangio because his defense was obliterated by Oregon which would be the OSU equivalent. And by the way Stanford scored 31 that game so its not like Stanford's D didnt get any help like Wisconsin failed to give Aranda's overmatched D.
Again back to question one - name me any DC in the country who has actually faced OSU's (or Baylor, or Oregon's) offense who people would be content with.
People want a unicorn and at this point would sh%% on Kirby Smart saying "you cant even tell if he is a good coach because Bama gets so much talent....and Saban meddles so much Kirby might not even be responsible for that defense.....and oh yeah the one time he faced OSU got obliterated..."
The only guy in the country I can see is Vanderbilt's current head coach. Who currently makes over $2M a year and is employed.
December 14th, 2015 at 12:10 PM ^
As I was reading this I was just thinking Derek Mason the entire time, and I feel bad hoping he gets fired by Vandy next year so Harbaugh can hire him.
December 14th, 2015 at 1:27 PM ^
You should feel bad, you are clearly a bad person!
That being said, what are the chances of this happening?
December 14th, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^
Pro's - has never gotten destroyed by OSU, Oregon, or any other high powered offense.
Con's - as a mythical creature, we have to pay him in Elf gold, and that's hard to find.
December 14th, 2015 at 1:45 PM ^
December 14th, 2015 at 1:55 PM ^
We got our unicorn for HC, so I think people want it to happen at DC.
December 14th, 2015 at 7:37 PM ^
...being thrown out in these threads.
And we all knew our unicorn existed for the HC search. I don't even know who that person would be for this DCC search.
Who is the spread stopping GOD that everyone is demanding?
At least during the HC search it was Harbaugh that we all wanted and despite the media...we all knew there was a shot. I don't even know where to start to find this mythical creature for the DCC search.
December 14th, 2015 at 9:14 PM ^
December 14th, 2015 at 10:59 PM ^
I'm not the one saying someone isn't a good candidate because OSU scored on them or thinking Bud Foster is a realistic candidate.
December 15th, 2015 at 12:23 AM ^
Calmer than you are.
December 14th, 2015 at 2:36 PM ^
The days of giving up 9 ppg (1997 defense) are probably over. Just have to stop them enough to score more.
December 14th, 2015 at 1:47 PM ^
Exactly. Nick Saban is widely regarded as the best defensive coach in the NCAA and he regularly gives up pretty big points to running spread teams.
The key against those teams, like others have noted, is for your offense to control the ball and score points as well.
December 14th, 2015 at 1:53 PM ^
Also -- a good thing to consider when placing ALL OF THE BLAME on Durkin, who, it should be noted, lost 3 starting-caliber DLmen during the season (not even counting Mone).
Good luck shutting down an elite offense when that happens, anyone.
December 15th, 2015 at 12:45 AM ^
Definitely. I was going to post the same thing. Durkin has a bad game and everyone thinks he was some kind of traitor who didn't even give a shit about The Game. I actually think OSU is still probably the best team in the country this year. If they hadn't had their own Durkin-like fuck up against MSU, they'd be in the playoffs.
December 14th, 2015 at 2:12 PM ^
December 14th, 2015 at 2:37 PM ^
I love Shoop but PSU gets destroyed by OSU O. When Cardale was in vs PSU, the score was like 21-10. Urban put in Barrett in the 4th Q and JT went off for 100 rushing in that Q alone and I think OSU put up like 20 in that Q alone.
This is the larger pt - these offenses are going to score mid 30s as a floor when they are "on" even if you are doing a lot of things right.
You have to keep the ball away from OSU with a valid rushing attack of your own and then you have to score a lot of points yourself - bottom line.
December 14th, 2015 at 11:44 AM ^
December 14th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
So he got torched by a spread team and then made adjustments before he played the next spread team in order to beat them.
Already an upgrade over the previous DC. Hire the man.
December 14th, 2015 at 1:42 PM ^
Absolutely shut Auburn down. 31 pts and 435 yards. Dude is a wonder.
December 14th, 2015 at 2:12 PM ^
DJ Durkin's account. Surprised he's been a member since 2009.
December 14th, 2015 at 2:53 PM ^
Can't think of a worse argument for hiring a DC than to point out he gave up 1000 yards and 90 pts to similar spread teams in two games. Does that instill hope for you? Now there are plenty of good arguments for Aranda. That one just happens to be literally the worst I can think of.
December 14th, 2015 at 3:11 PM ^
and I'm pretty sure that it was made by other posters in this thread, was that Wisconsin won the second game. Yes, their offense put up some points, which is always helpful, but they gave up a lot less yards and points in that second game.
Indiana put up 34 points on us this year in regulation play. OSU put up 42. And our defensive performance agasint OSU as been widely described as "bed shitting".
December 14th, 2015 at 12:00 PM ^
Anyone who judges any DC on only OSU offense is never going to be happy.
GA just hired a head coach whose defense was obliterated by OSU O. So did Pitt. So if you think Pat Narduzzi or Kirby Smart are not good enough to be UM's DC tell me who is? Bud Foster who is an elite DC gave up 42 to them this year in game 1. Pruitt never faced that offense - you are telling me GA's 2014 D wouldn't be torched?
Aranda is an excellent coach who does more with less and would be a boon for UM. Wisconsin probably has 2-3 4* it recruits in an entire class annually. Their 2014 class currently has two consensus 4* - going up against the arsenal that is OSU. He'd have better talent here but UM still would need an offense that could put up 35+.
He would also probably be here only 2 years max as he is late 30s and on his way to bigger things.
December 14th, 2015 at 12:08 PM ^
December 14th, 2015 at 12:14 PM ^
The great Jeremy Pruitt in 2014 gave up
- 38 to South Carolina
- 38 to Florida
- 32 to Arkansas
- 31 to Kentucky
The great Jeremy Pruitt in 2015 gave up
- 38 to Alabama
- 38 to Tennesee
None of those offenses was close to OSU at its peak in late 2014.
People want to give their left arm up to get Jeremy Pruitt.
People want a unicorn.
December 14th, 2015 at 12:34 PM ^
Take your evidence and shove it back where the spread offense doesn't shine. We don't need evidence. We need gut feelings and cherry-picked statistics to determine who is right and proper for our next DC!!
December 14th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^
Stop putting words in my mouth. Where the shit would I store a unicorn?
December 14th, 2015 at 12:30 PM ^
December 14th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
December 14th, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^
Pretty much the only DC people here are going to be happy with is Bud Foster
December 14th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
Derek Mason. Maybe if I say it enough it can become a reality?
December 14th, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
He is going to resign from Vandy and take a $1m+ hit in salary to be our DC. As long as you keep repeating it.
December 14th, 2015 at 1:20 PM ^
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December 14th, 2015 at 12:16 PM ^
GAVE UP 42 to OSU this year!!!! And that happened despite no distraction of interviewing for a HC job! DONT WANT.
MEDIOCrE!!
December 14th, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^
I've long admired Bud Foster's VT defenses. I probably missed this during the many coaching hires threads, but wasn't Foster assumed to be coach-in-waiting at VT? What happened? Fuente is a great hire, but I thought Foster would be parking in the "Head Coach" parking slot after Beamer retired.
Foster allowed more than 30 points to OSU. Raised MGoVoices will probably roar over this perceived sin if he was a serious DC candidate for us.
Also, Foster is in his 50's. That precludes him from being a viable candidate since everyone wants a "young and hungry" DC.
IMHO, Foster would be a great hire. But not everyone around these parts will think so.
December 14th, 2015 at 12:34 PM ^
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