May 25th, 2011 at 5:41 PM ^

That's hilarious. I can't wait to see their six [ed: fifteen] person class in 2012.

Too bad it's not Ole Miss or Alabama hit with a fifteen limit. That would be worth watching.


May 25th, 2011 at 5:38 PM ^

"Scholarship limits will prohibit USC from signing more than 15 players in their next three recruiting classes"

Open season on USC commits and SoCal recruits...

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May 25th, 2011 at 6:27 PM ^

I work with a serious USC homer. They signed 31, but eight of them enrolled early and counted against the previous year's class. Only 23 count for this season. Pete Carroll used to sign really small classes if he didn't get everyone he wanted.

On the plus side, the 75 scholarship max for next season limits them to something like six total signees for this year. USC is going to be in serious pain in 2014...too bad only one or two people who were at USC during the violations were actually punished.


May 25th, 2011 at 7:56 PM ^

The official limit is 25 in a class, but that can be extended to 28 as up to 3 early enrollees can be backdated to the previous class. That only works though if there's room to fit them under the 25 maximum. So If we signed 22 the year before, we could sign 28 as there would be room to fit the extra three from this class in the last one. If we signed 25 the year before, we'd be at a maximum of 25 this year.

And that's only the yearly maximum, without considering the overall maximum of 85.

I tried a few times to write this out and that's the clearest I can make it. Confusing as hell. I'm not even 100% sure what I said was right...


May 25th, 2011 at 8:11 PM ^

Yes, that's correct.  I think the part he didn't understand is that if we signed 20 the year before, we cannot sign 30 this year, even if 5 enroll early and we have 30 spots available in the 85 overall limit.  This is what USC did, and in the Big Ten that would be a no-no.  Apparently the Pac Ten hasn't such rule.


May 25th, 2011 at 5:41 PM ^

Anybody wanna make a list of recruits we're going head to head against USC for? I know Magnuson comes to mind.


May 25th, 2011 at 6:16 PM ^

Due to the post-season ban, NCAA rules allow any USC players who only have one year of eligibility remaining to transfer without sitting out a year. So, if someone like Ronald Johnson wanted to come to UM and we are not currently at our 85 scholly limit, we could take him. And it would only be for one year, so it will not impact how many kids we can sign in the 2012 class.


May 25th, 2011 at 7:00 PM ^

I just grabbed his name as an example because it was suggested by the person to whom I was responding. My point was that USC players who have only one year of eligibility remaining can transfer without sitting out a year. If RoJo is out of eligibility, he is out of eligibility.

FWIW, if Kiffin "assured" any commits signed in the 2011 class that the appeal would be successful, those players also might be able to get out of their commitments a la Seantrel Henderson. No guarantee, but it depends on what the kids were told and how badly USC wants to retain (and fight in public with) kids who do not want to be there.


May 25th, 2011 at 6:18 PM ^

SC tickets will be easy to find cheap these next few years, because when SC's not good, nobody goes to the games.  Hell, outside of ND and UCLA, the stadium isn't that close to full even in good years.  I've seen 3 Pac 10 games at the Coliseum, and none of them were more than about 80% full.


May 25th, 2011 at 6:56 PM ^

I'm glad that the games I went to were not full.  Have you ever been backed up in that terrible gameday traffic?  I would not go to the games if I didn't know people who went to school or lived nearby.  Walking there and eating bacon wrapped hot dogs is the best way to go.

SC fans and Laker fans are one in the same.  Show up late and leave early. 


May 25th, 2011 at 8:15 PM ^

Clearly you've not had a roadside dirty dog in LA.  Not all food is healthy Tater, including most of the best tasting.

Joking aside, some of the places (and by places I mean Hispanics with a cart on the sidewalk) will put mayo on your dog, but I don't do that.


May 25th, 2011 at 5:53 PM ^

Can somebody answer this, when does this apply?  Do the recruits who signed a LOI this year (2011) still get to stay on board?  So this will be the 2012, 2013, and 2014 classes?


May 25th, 2011 at 5:56 PM ^

My understanding is that the penalties could not be enforced until the appeal process was over which is why they were able to sign 30 this past class. So the scholarship reductions will be applied to the '12, '13 and '14 classes.

They already have 8 commits for '12 so they're over halfway done. That makes me smile...


May 25th, 2011 at 9:22 PM ^

They are also subject to a limit of 75 players rather than the normal 85, so depending on how many guys they still have on the roster including the incoming 2011 guys they might not even be able to sign the full 15.

I can't wait to see what happens to OSU and Auburn.


May 25th, 2011 at 7:22 PM ^

That must be the stat.  There is no way that 350 D-1 football players emerge every year from the LA school system.  

That said, teams from Oregon and Arizona definitely need to take advantage of this ruling and grab the talent.  And if UCLA held any dreams of becoming relevant again, the time is now to make their move.


May 25th, 2011 at 6:01 PM ^


Class of 2010 = 17 signed LOI - 6 played as freshmen leaving 11 with potential 5th years

Class of 2011 = 30 LOI - way to find a loophole and go all SEC.

Class of 2012 = 15

Class of 2013 = 15

Class of 2014 = 15

By the time the Class of 2010 gets to their 5th year, there will be 86 scolar-athletes on the squad barring any transfers, injuries, failures to qualify, decommits, etc..  And we all know there's never any transfers, injuries, failures to qualify, or decommittments.

Good luck Trojans.  You and OSU can commiserate with each other.