Urban Meyer Thread -- Wednesday, 23 Nov

Submitted by markusr2007 on November 23rd, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Urban Meyer quoted by ESPN 12/23:

I have not been offered any job nor is there a deal in place. I plan on spending Thanksgiving with my family and will not comment on this any further.

Of course, this is Urban's secret code language for "I've called up Hernia Movers and they'll be at my front door on Monday."

Yet Central Ohio News 10tv.com confirms Meyer has accepted job: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7272658/urban-meyer-deni…

Mod Edit: We're going to do the thread consolidation thing again. This is your Urban Meyer thread for today. The only additional threads allowed are seriously new news. If a reliable news source (not Joe Schaad, Deadspin, or Sports by Brooks) says there will be an official announcement, then create a new thread. [zl]

Comments

Zone Left

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:21 AM ^

I really agree with your first paragraph.

That said, I don't know that he could have any open job in the country. From the perspective of a university president, athletic director, and board, I'd think Urban Meyer would be concerning. The first thing schools want is a great program and Meyer probably brings that (assuming he's back to hyper-focused Meyer). However, the last thing they want is turnover/controversy. He stayed at Florida for six years under fantastic conditions. Why is he going to stay anywhere for the long term?

It just seems like a huge gamble. 50% of the time you get 10x your money. 50% of the time you get your legs broken when you can't pay your marker.

Philbert

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:13 AM ^

This guy was a skunk at bgsu. He has a press conference saying he's not leaving and then 4 days later he is in Utah. No wonder he recruits so low moral kids, he has little to no morals at all.

wisecrakker

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:15 AM ^

to anything until the NCAA ruling is out.

I havent heard whether they got their expedited video conference the week of Nov.28.

They are looking at the decision after all bowl bids are out.

My guess he wont come if there is a bowl ban.

superstringer

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:16 AM ^

I had an epiphany about this yesterday.  We should WANT Urban "Legend" Meyer in Cbus.

This rivalry NEEDS the 10-year war again.  It was the best rivalry in football when we play each year for the B1G championship, when the record after 12 years is 6-6... this 9-1-1 record, followed by the other team going 7-0, is BULLCRAP.  That is NOT a rivalry.  It has lost its status of greatest rivalry in sports -- because it got lopsided, each way.  USC-ND did the exact same thing.

We should welcome those morons (see:  Adophus Washington's comments yesterday) going 11-0 before we play them.  We need to be 11-0 going into the game each year.  THAT will bring the rivalry back.

Bring it on.  I hope they go undefeated all 11 other games.  Its what we NEED.  We should ALL want it.  It's not enough that we go 12-0; we need to do it by crushing OSU hopes in the process.  THAT will bring us all "back."

So stop with the denials Urban, step up and LETS DO THIS THING.

michgoblue

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:30 AM ^

This x 1000.  Sure, I would like a year or two of OSU fumbling around under fickell, just to give us time to catch up in recruiting so that we enter the the next phase of this rivalry on equal footing, but I am totally with you.  Bring on Meyer.  I want these guys to be great, so that when we get great, our games get the hype of the 2006 match-up of undefeated #1 vs undefeated #2.  I am so sick of watching the SEC have the top billing match-ups (see LSU / Bama). 

bluenyc

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:19 AM ^

For the record. I like Herbie. But, he said on mike and mike that out of respect, he would talk about fickle because he has a game, why did he break the story about les and lsu in 07.

kevin holt

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:22 AM ^

Not So Fast... wait, what did you just say to me?

I think you have too many F's, unless you're more agitated about this than I would expect... or it stands for Not Safe For Factory-working Manufacturing Foremen or something obscure like that

Sobinator

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:24 AM ^

This is a done deal.  They are not doing this behind Fickell's back as he will be the coach in waiting when Meyer leaves.  I am sure Fickell has been involved in and is embracing this move.

As a Michigan fan, I like this move.  Everyone can bash Meyer all they want, but I think he will come in and run a clean program.  Something Tressel clearly did not do.  As I understand it, the main reason Meyer really left Florida is because he didn't want to cheat like everyone else in the SEC.

Sobinator

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:42 AM ^

Obviously cheating hasn't been frowned upon, it has been a way of life down there.  How else can you explain sure 1st round picks coming back for their senior year the last several years.

Tressel was a flat out cheater, and he was clearly good at it.  I just don't think Mayer rolls that way.  I could be wrong, but I think Michigan will be on a  more level playing field with him over Father Tressel.

R Kelly

November 23rd, 2011 at 11:00 AM ^

Its funny to read things like Washington's quote from yesterday and spin them the way we all did, but you do realize that what he was saying had nothing to do with actually cheating right?   He is an 18 year old kid who said something that was taken the wrong way, it was not an admission of anything.  He was trying to compliment the academic support system OSU offers to its athletes; if a Michigan commit tried to do the same thing we'd commend him for it.  

MI Expat NY

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:40 AM ^

Sure, they might not be acting behind Fickell's back, but how do the assistants feel?  They have to know that most of them are out if Meyer is in.  And granted, they'd likely be out at the end of the season anyway, but they still can't be thrilled that their "boss" is negotiating a soft landing for himself during the season that will at the same time cost them their jobs.  I imagine it's a tense coach's room right now.

MI Expat NY

November 23rd, 2011 at 11:00 AM ^

I can imagine.  I would be so pissed if I was Bollman or one of the other top assistants.  They probably already felt that Fickell didn't deserve the head job even on an interim basis and then to see him essentially say "well, I can make sure I have a job here, screw the rest of you," has to tick them off beyond belief.  

They're professionals and I'm sure they're trying to minimize the distraction for the players, but I can't see how this internal strife isn't a good sign for us.

mackbru

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:47 AM ^

How can anyone say he led a clean program? By the letter of NCAA law, maybe. But his team had something like 45 players arrested during his last few years in Florida. Somehow this now gets whitewashed, even though the media was all over it at the time. This is the OSU version of clean. I really can't believe a school in as much trouble as OSU is in would hire a guy whose players annually filled the police blotter.

Gorgeous Borges

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:25 AM ^

 Yeah this is pretty much looking like a done deal. Not really very happy about this. I think that we've got the coaching staff to compete with him on the field, but it'll be a lot harder to be in ur state stealin ur dudez with Urban on the recruiting trail.

superstringer

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:50 AM ^

"Ur dudez" better want to play in constant shotgun & spread formation.  If "ur dudez," such as Brionte Dunn, want to play manball, we'll be competitive.

Plus, UM (how odd are THOSE initials) needs to go down to SEC territory to get the speed he wants.  He's not particularly going to lock up 20 recruits a year from Ohio and PA.

Finally, defensive players have no reason to be particularly enamored with UM (NTUM).  He is an offensive guru.  At FLA, it was Mattison and Strong who lured in all the great defensive recruits.  So, advantage UM (YTUM) there.  Guys like Stroebel and Ringer etc. wouldn't necessarily be changing their minds just because they are bringing in a shotgun offensive coach.

maizenbluenc

November 23rd, 2011 at 1:07 PM ^

I agree, we can continue to compete in the region recruiting-wise based on ND and OSU being in the spread (good for QB, running back, and wide receiver recruiting), and varying needs of each team in a given year, however:

a) OSU seems to have done pretty well defensive coaching-wise over the years. Why would Urban Meyer significantly change that staff out?

b) If the real recruiting king at Michigan is Mattison, how long until Mattison retires? And will Brady Hoke > or = Urban Meyer name-wise by then?

Mattison is great this year, and will keep us competitive in the near future, but still recruiting kids in Ohio against their home state school, who have grown up in the Tressel era is going to be tough rowing. Adding Urban Meyer gives them the reason to believe that will make it tougher.

They way I see it, we need to get to, and win the NC game before the sanctions come off OSU or they will blow by us again.

Unless you truly believe the spread will never work in the B1G ...

jtmc33

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:25 AM ^

Yes Ohio, you are playing on a 6-5 team for a Lame Duck Coach in a Lame Duck System that will be obsolete the second your bowl game is over.  Also, no one cares about you, this season, or your coaches.  It's all about Urban right now.

Think about that when you are running out of the tunnel at The Big House

pdgoblue25

November 23rd, 2011 at 10:30 AM ^

Hmmm I wonder when Urban Meyer will be announced as head coach.

If he actually said something like, "I will NOT be coaching next year."  Then I might think about it, but he's never said anything like that. 

I guess the whole 1 year he spent with his family was enough time.  He's a hypocrite just like their old coach, so he will fit right in.