UM ranked #14 World's Best University
I am not a big fan of these college/university rankings, but why not...
http://www.usnews.com/education/worlds-best-universities-rankings/top-400-universities-in-the-world
Sandwiched between Princeton and Cornell. Not bad for a public university.
For Ohio, you have to go a bit further down on the list (no, a bit further. a bit further. a bit fur... uh forget it, they are #111).
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:48 PM ^
# 164 is way too high for State.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 PM ^
Come on we had to have cracked the top 1000...
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:25 PM ^
#10 in the USA, #1 in USA for public universities
#1 in the Big Ten
#1 in our hearts and in the hearts of most spartys.
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:32 PM ^
I'm calling you out for replying to my post when it has nothing to do with what I said. You just wanted to be second overall. You sir, are not #1 in my heart...
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 PM ^
I ment to hit the reply to the next post. I saw the errors of my ways. Then I thought, "Tis better to beg for forgiveness then ask for permission". +1 to you good sir.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:52 PM ^
Little bro is #164, and the domers (likely to be the only ones actually interested in such comparisons) check in at #223.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:22 PM ^
Neither make sense to me, especially ND at 223.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 PM ^
ND at #229 is way too high. (They were talking about football ratings, right?)
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:52 PM ^
I don't get how we are like 29th in the nation, 14th in the world. Can anyone explain that to me?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:55 PM ^
Math.
And a weird methodology which gives a lot of weight to international students and faculty... for whatever reason.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:02 PM ^
Those rankings have different focuses and methodologies. Both rankings take into account a lot of subjective measures (like employer and academic reputation), but the world rankings are biased toward international programs and support for international students, whereas the national university rankings are more geared toward "domestic" issues (standardized test scores, graduation rates, retention rates, student:faculty ratios, avg salaries of graduates, etc.). Many of these factors aren't even considered in the world rankings.
Even in my time there during the mid-90's, it was clear that U-M had a very robust international student population, as well as several visiting foreign professors. One of my economics classes was taught by a professor visiting from Seoul University, and I had another TA from Singapore (who I loved, but I digress).
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 PM ^
I remember reading somewhere that the national rankings only take into account the undergraduate reputation, while the "World Rankings" consider graduate programs, faculty honors and such.
EDIT: Yeah, what Oriental Andrew said.
February 27th, 2012 at 1:14 PM ^
The national rankings are for undergraduate programs, the graduate schools (and programs) are ranked separately. They use really different methods for ranking each.
Regarding the World's Best Universities, according to the explanation by USN&WR:
"Additionally, the methodology used to compute the World's Best Universities rankings is different in most key areas from what we use in the U.S. News Best Colleges and U.S. News Best Graduate Schools. It's true that both the Best Colleges and the World's Best Universities rankings use peer surveys. However, the survey process used to calculate peer assessment and recruiter reviews in the World's Best Universities rankings are conducted very differently. Because of the limitations and the availability of cross-country comparative data, the world ranking system relies heavily on research performance measured through citations per faculty member. The U.S. News rankings do not use citation analysis."
So the world rankings give lots of weight to research and research dollars (which is why we rock it), whereas the national college rankings use test scores, graduation rates and other student specific data, which they argue is not comparable across countries. IMHO, it's a better reflection of the university's prestige as a whole.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:37 PM ^
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 PM ^
If they would just could GSI's our international facutly score would be much higher
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 PM ^
Are we the top PUBLIC school in the world?
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 PM ^
Broadly speaking, most institutions outside the US are "public" in the sense that they receive direct public subsidy which has historically kept tuition low.
Actual legal charter statuses vary but that's generally considered less relevant than the financial support issue.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:55 PM ^
#14 in the world but #1 in my heart!!! LOL
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 PM ^
OSU is ranked ahead of Case Western Reserve, and 100 spots in front of Notre Dame?
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 PM ^
This installment of college rankings is the best evidence yet of why these lists are meaningless.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 PM ^
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:58 PM ^
Must. Not. Stare. At. Computer. For. Next. Two. Hours....
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:06 PM ^
My eyes just burned out from staring too much. She's still going right????
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:14 PM ^
Best comment on here
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:18 PM ^
I don't care what anyone says, these never get old :)
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:16 PM ^
three thumbs up
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:59 PM ^
I want to know how Ohio is #111 & Vanderbilt is #131.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:04 PM ^
Obviously, it's all the "Sports and Leisure studies" majors.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 PM ^
I got to 100 looking for vandy and gave up, deciding this was a pointless ranking. ND and Vandy are both top 20 nationally by most other standards and are 130+ and 230+ on this one.
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 PM ^
This is a ranking designed to inform foreign students, not domestic students. Thus, it emphasizes diferent things. Notre Dame seems to be relatively unknown outside the US, so apparently didn't get enough academic reputation responses from the 90% of the respondents that were from outside the US to even register. Maybe they don't have a lot of international faculty and students, either.
The survey may have a point that you don't see, rather than being actually pointless.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:20 PM ^
You should see the Family Resource Managment majors emerging from OSU.
TOP. FLIGHT.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:12 PM ^
Stephen Budiansky recently wrote a really good essay on why the credence given to these rankings is such a bad thing: schools do a bunch of stuff that is really costly, unethical, and counterproductive to the mission of actually teaching people in order to game the ranking criteria, and the manner in which the criteria are aggregated into a final score is completely arbitrary. (Ignore the blog title if it would otherwise evoke a silly response.)
That said, U of M is ranked really high, so I'm all for the enterprise.
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:29 PM ^
and how is it smiling?
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:54 PM ^
That's What She Said.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:38 AM ^
have no idea. My best guess - sea otter? Seal?
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:29 PM ^
7 B1G schools before the first SEC school.
And 8 CIC schools as we get to count Chicago in that.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:25 PM ^
I know Brady Hoke doesn't negatively recruit, but a sign with the relative rankings would be great to put somewhere in the football facility for recruits and their parents to see. If it's just a list, it doesn't count as negative recruiting, right?
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:27 PM ^
Diary cometh
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 PM ^
Love that we're ranked high but that list is a joke. UVA, which is well known academically as commensurate to UM and Cal Berkeley as being the top public universities, is ranked 126 with an academic reputation score in the 50% mark... Retarded and false.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:03 PM ^
I know these lists are messed up methodologically, but UM has a GREAT name overseas in my experience (in the same league as HYPS) while UVa garners, "Who?" looks. Just a general observation that I can't explain but seems to be consistent.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:23 AM ^
I've been abroad for the past five years and I have been pleasantly surprised when foreigners not only recognize the name Michigan but they are impressed by it.
February 24th, 2012 at 1:06 AM ^
So I shoud start applying overseas?
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:21 PM ^
Arizona!
Thats right. LOL
Sidenote:
Employer reputation score:
University of Michigan: 90.0
MSU: 44.7
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:20 PM ^
And we're up to #8 in DTF Universities.
http://www.collegemagazine.com/editorial/2225/Top-10-DTF-Colleges
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:35 PM ^
What is the building in the Michigan picture on that page? I don't think I've ever seen that fountain before... North Campus?
Also, I feel like the top 5 on that list have much better depth when it comes to attractive female options than the bottom 5. Why couldn't I have seen this list when I was still in school? I might have done a summer in Texas.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:44 PM ^
That's Lurie Engineering Center/The IOE Building, and having been an IOE, I have a good feeling that's not where F after the DT is cumming from (get it? - heh).
As for depth, I look at these rankings like recruiting rankings, very dependent not just on quality but quantity as well.
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 PM ^
The university of pyongyang in north korea had a higher employer credential rating than ohiO
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:05 PM ^
ND...that is crazy low. Some strange math going on here, but hell, I dont care, 14 works for me