Two Students Robbed at Gunpoint at Hill and Oxford

Submitted by PackardChug on

I'm hearing this from friends. The two girls are giving statements of the incident as I type this. Any students reading this, please make sure you get home safely.

WindyCityBlue

December 9th, 2010 at 10:15 AM ^

1.  I think you missed his point here.  I think he was saying that the homeless were instigating the situation and had to fend them off, in which case its fair game and not a slight to the homeless' human dignity.  Rarely does anyone outwardly start shit with the homeless - they are usually avoided all together (and to some extent, unfortunately so).  I have had several bad situations with the homeless in AA, and I almost always give them leeway because I do have some pity for their situation.

2.  I don't know you, but I guarantee you have done this once or twice.

3.  Agreed, but I am so guitly of this. 

CRex

December 9th, 2010 at 10:24 AM ^

Why should I respect people who are going around and trying to grift me out of my money?  

I've had the following happen:

1.  Guy asks me for some money so he can buy food.  I offer to talk to a place of his choosing and pay for food.  He refuses.

2.  Guy asks me for some money for the bus.  I offer him a bus token I have on me.  He refuses, demands cash.

3.  Guy asks me for some money because he and he his wife are stranded and can't pay the garage's repair bill.  Says he only needs ten more bucks.  I offer to go to the garage with him and cover the ten bucks.  He refuses and walks off.  

F that.  A lot of the homeless out here are con men and also willing to commit crimes when they get a chance.  Seeking into a house party and stealing a few items or checking for unlocked doors late at night.  During my time in the student ghetto we heard our door handle get slowly turned to see if the door was locked or not at least twice a year. Some of the people here are homeless due to unfortunate circumstances, but sadly I find myself assuming the worst about them. When someone panhandles me I just keep walking. Don't look and don't break stride.  

WindyCityBlue

December 9th, 2010 at 11:49 AM ^

I had the exact same incidences with the homeless whilst a student.  And I tend to agree that they live a life of deceit and mocked sympathy to gain money for other reasons than what they lead on - they have much deeper issues than not having a home.

I remember leaving Charlies once and man asked me for some money for food.  I offered my UNTOUCHED pepperoni twists that I was taking home for a snack later.  He refused by saying that he was a vegetarian and would like money instead.  Um BS!  I'm sorry, can't help you.  Then he told me to Fuck Off and played the over-played race card on me.  I let it slide because I did have some pity, but if he was a student, I would have kicked his dick into dirt. 

MgoblueAF

December 9th, 2010 at 8:07 PM ^

I had the same exact theory and policy of giving people money. Fortunately for the two of them, though, they actually went into Jimmy John's and Pizza Hut w/ me for the food. I just got back from Afghanistan, and the most sly beggars I've ever met happened to be 5-yr-old Afghanis...

Beavis

December 9th, 2010 at 1:50 PM ^

First of all, thanks to WindyCityBlue below. If I had time to burn this afternoon, I would +1 all your recent posts.  You will have to settle for the one below.  Also, CRexx, thank you kind sir. 

Second of all, who the f*** do you think you are.

1) Situation I described did happen.  It was in response to a homeless man being found in our house (likely rooting around for cans, but still - he broke in). 

2) You're right on this one, but this tends to happen in college / in a state of blackout.  Sort of like Michigan's "violations".  I am guilty, but 'everyone does it'.

3) You hate Rick's.  Congratulations.  You probably have spent many a night, home alone, drinking by yourself, listening to Depeche Mode.

[edit: this response was to the man with the trojan horse avatar - don't know how this showed up as a reply to something else]

TatersGonnaTate

December 9th, 2010 at 1:05 PM ^

I see, totally respect your stance.  I just get frustrated with the hypocrisy in athletic fan bases.  For instance, everyone was falling all over themselves to give Chris Gallon a pass for high school thuggery just because he was a Michigan target, when they'd be all over it if he was a Florida commit.

NYCJHGoblue

December 9th, 2010 at 9:48 AM ^

who was held up at gunpoint in NYC. When the robbers said give me all your money, the guy simply said in response "It's 11:30pm have a good night" and just walked off. The two would be robbers were so confused by his calmness and his response they didn't know what to do and just let him go. This tactic is quite interesting because the muggers expect their prey to act like prey. When they don't it changes the whole dynamic of the situation.

If you think your going to be mugged start acting crazy...just start talking to yourself or act like you have tourettes..."f osu"..."f osu"...

hailtothevictors08

December 10th, 2010 at 3:49 AM ^

i am kind of sickened by all of the jokes on this post ...

crime has been a very serious issue this year for students and this is not to be laughed at ... this particular incident happened in a secluded area of campus to two greek girls walking home ... panhell (the female greek council) has been pushing a petition for better lighting in some of these areas around campus (the area of the incident and also down towards sigma kappa and then down hill) and i can not beg enough of aa residents (students and adults alike) to help in this effort to help protect all students ... it really is time we start taking our saftey seriously, i know personally my house along with many others is really trying to push members to never let girls walk home alone ... and thats my second plea to all, if you have a friend going home alone and you dont feel alright about it, call them a cab, pay the $5, it is worth it for their saftey and for your peace of mind

antoo

December 10th, 2010 at 4:14 AM ^

Maybe more lights isn't the solution: 

 

Using lighting for safety's sake is only beneficial if you have someone to constantly watch whatever is being lit. Bad lighting enables an intruder who, as a mere street pedestrian, to come by and case out your property. Your own light clearly gives him information about your house. If you had no lights on, an intruder would need to use a flashlight, which is an action that immediately points himself out.

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Remember that criminals need light too! Just because the lights are on, does not ensure that crime goes away. After all, what is the point of lighting an area, if there is no one around to stand guard watching the area concerned?

There are those that continue the believe that more lighting leads to more security and less crime. It is so often repeated in that it has almost become a mindless mantra of the lighting industry. If one extremizes this view, then one comes to the conclusion that times with the most amount of lighting must have the least amount of crime. Looking at the following consistent data from the FBI may then be viewed as a strong piece of evidence against that thinking.