[TWIS] "Big Ten’s ref conspiracy..." + [Michigan Monday]

Submitted by BoFlex on October 24th, 2017 at 12:43 PM

Obviously, neither articles are very favorable towards Michigan this week, but usually people enjoying commenting on these weekly pieces, so the sake of continuity...

This Week in Schadenfreude: The Big Ten's ref conspiracy against 1 of its 2 biggest program continues.

The last time Michigan’s defensive line drew a holding penalty was two weeks ago against Michigan State. But I want to encourage this kind of thinking, so I’ll note Brady Hoke’s Michigan teams all finished in the Big Ten’s top three at avoiding penalties, while 2017’s is second-worst.

Michigan Monday

  • Positives:

The Wolverines managed just 103 yards rushing. They actually gained 152 yards, but lost 49 yards to seven sacks. Karan Higdon rushed for 45 yards, Ty Isaac managed 36 yards, and Chris Evans chipped in 17 yards. That’s 98 yards rushing on 25 carries by Michigan’s running backs. None of those 25 carries went for a loss


Chitown Kev

October 24th, 2017 at 1:05 PM ^

I expected to see more USC than they had this week...but I can't blame them for getting in digs on Big Bret...who deservess every dig he gets...and Tennessee is in it every week...

Guy Fawkes

October 24th, 2017 at 1:05 PM ^

I mean it's fine and dandy to think we're all whiners, because..well, sometimes we are but when you watch the tape and the no-calls, or blown calls are blatently obvious against Michigan then there needs to be a discussion about it. Gary is held all the damn time, why isnt it called? It's a valid question


October 24th, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^

than other penalties.

One commentator in the comment section pointed out about Bama's Front 7 which is full of NFL players that they generated 1 called holding per season yet they still ball out. Do you see Bama fans complaining about them holding their DL every single week? Nope. As long as they win games, they don't care.


October 24th, 2017 at 2:39 PM ^

"when you watch the tape and the no-calls, or blown calls are blatently obvious against Michigan"


Not "against Michigan"... No one gets holding calls.


Michigan: 5 holding calls against opponents in 7 games

OSU: 4 holding calls against opponents in 7 games

Alabama: 3 holding calls against opponents in 7 games


October 24th, 2017 at 1:11 PM ^

I mean, holy shit - why didn't they just ask me to write the Michigan segment for this one? Seriously. 

Worse, this is the second time that thread has been featured after a Penn State loss, which if you had asked me five seasons ago if I thought that would happen, I probably would have said "fuck no". 


October 24th, 2017 at 1:13 PM ^

Refs no doubt have it out for us. It's actually quite pathetic. I hate refs in all sports. I would be one now that I don't coach anymore, but I can't be something I hate that bad. On the flip side they are human so of course they have bias, there's just no way around it. I guarantee all refs have an opinion on us and I guarantee those opinions influence calls at least time to time. It sucks and I hate refs, but it's never gonna change.


October 24th, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^

Every year UM Admissions turns down almost 50,000 applications compared to 6,000 acceptances.  With 500,000 living alums, we must have created nearly 5,000,000 "turn-downs" who often become UM haters.  Face it folks, we are out-numbered by haters more than most and our sports teams are never going to get a break from this inherent wide-spread negative bias.  More we complain the worse it gets from the haters.


October 24th, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^

What will the consensus be on the team if PSU goes into Columbus and wins soundly by 10+? That would prove that they are a legitimate NC contender. Then we’re sitting with a flukey MSU loss and a loss on the road to maybe the #2 team in the country. Really not that bad.


October 24th, 2017 at 2:24 PM ^

Doesn't sound like a gut feeling. Sounds more like wishful thinkiong. No way in hell PSU gets pounded. They have the best player on the field and maybe the best 3 or 4.


October 24th, 2017 at 5:15 PM ^

OSU’s defense is better. Bosa, Hubbard, Lewis, Sprinkle: that front four is as good as ours. Damon Webb and the DBs. OSU reloads. They have athletes at every position. Their linebackers can cover Barkley. Meyer is the best coach in the Big Ten, and he gets revenge. Franklin is a good coach, and I’d like him if her still coached Vandy or was in SEC, but Meyer will make sure Barrett runs all over that defense like McShorty did against us—and JT is a better runner.

Perkis-Size Me

October 24th, 2017 at 2:08 PM ^

Did you say the same thing before the 2015 MSU-OSU game? That was arguably the greatest OSU team ever assembled, and MSU went in there with a backup QB and smacked them around. 

OSU is beatable on any given day. 


October 24th, 2017 at 1:50 PM ^

Of PSU and OSU football this year (DVR is a wonderful device) due to them being the best teams on our schedule. I can say with certainty that OSU is the better team. The game is in Columbus and Urban will have had two weeks to prepare... Feels like OSU wins by at least 14

Perkis-Size Me

October 24th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^

I see PSU losing, but I do not think it's going to be a pounding. This has the makings of a 35-31 kind of game. I think OSU's defense is going to have some trouble stopping PSU simply due to how much they have to defend. OSU has had nothing but bodybag games since Oklahoma, so I don't know how improved their secondary really is. PSU's passing game is going to test them big time, and of course, that opens lanes for Barkley too. 

But I give the advantage to the home team out for revenge, and while I think Franklin will find success against OSU's D, I think Meyer will find more success against PSU's D. Credit PSU for shutting down the teams it's played, but it has not played against an offense this season that is anything beyond meh. OSU and it's team full of well-coached five star talent, fresh off a bye, is a whole other animal. 


Everyone Murders

October 24th, 2017 at 1:34 PM ^

In the TWIS the author wrote regarding the alleged ref bias:

A similar thought at Michigan’s Scout board: Did the ref conspiracy come down from Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany himself, in a bid to infuriate one of the largest fan bases in the country and one of the two most important schools in his league?

It's good that some people have not lost sight of our place in the B1G.  This current blip in our fortunes too shall pass.


October 24th, 2017 at 2:14 PM ^

and likely actively dislikes Michigan.  You may recall the Big10 approved 2 coaches for OSU so that Meyer could have extra recruiting time.  It was Delaney's Big10 that approved the two away games in a row versus MSU.

Delany's ego is equivalent to Dave Brandon's and I'm sure he is just as big of an ass.   His focus is on money, money, and then money.

Blue Mike

October 24th, 2017 at 1:51 PM ^

I've never understood how that would work. There isn't time for Harbaugh to veto a play and have someone come up with another play, get it approved and called into the game without a delay of game penalty. Especially when he's caught up in the all of the action going on. I think that's more of a "the buck stops here" answer from Harbaugh when questioned about playcalling.


October 24th, 2017 at 4:48 PM ^

he knows the offense by heart and when you are in the game calling plays you kind of have a vision of what will (hopefully) work and the next play or two simmering in your head.   so he can make small or significant changes in a play, the blocking scheme, accompanying pass patterns, whatever with relative ease.  he might hesitate for a second but trust me, he knows which parts he wants to change or even if he wants to flip from run to pass or vice versa.  


October 24th, 2017 at 2:25 PM ^

PA is not just about faking the defense. They wanted to run a certain play, and that play happens to include a play fake. You can’t just ditch it or it would throw off the timing of the routes.

It happens all the time and does not indicate bad coaching. Watch closely and you’ll see it in most games.


October 24th, 2017 at 1:36 PM ^

This is hilarious. We are a cash cow to the B1G, there is zero chance a conspiracy against us exists.

Bad luck? Sure.

Conspiracy? Lol.

Indiana Blue

October 24th, 2017 at 2:03 PM ^

you have zero recollection of the hatchet job the ref's did last year in Columbus.  Flagrant late hits, and swallowed flags .. not to mention butt patting for ohio players.  I am also going to assume that you don't go to the games in person ... where you actually watch jerseys being pulled off, or our D linemen being tackled.  Sorry ... but I've been to every game since Florida and the IU and PSU games were unquestionably horrid from a Michigan standpoint.  A record number of penalties vs IU (16)  -  and that doesn't count 2 penalties that IU declined because the refs called 3 penalties against Michigan on one play !   Then actually make a cogent argument how Penn State has no penalties against the offense or defense for an entire football game (this is actually impossible - unless the refs swallow flags).

You can LOL ... but it is happening.

Go Blue!