Trey Burke & 2014 NBA Draft

Submitted by Marley Nowell on May 20th, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Utah has won the #5 Pick in the NBA Draft.  This puts them in an interesting position based on the talent available.  The first tier of talent goes 4-deep (Wiggans/Parker/Embid/Exum) and the second tier as I see it is Marcus Smart and Julius Randle.  Obviously Smart would be bad for Burke by taking his starting position, or it could be good if he is traded to a better team.  They could also take Randle and pair him with Derrick Favors and Enes Canter in the frontcourt, though it would be difficult to play all three at the same time.  Between PF/C there are 96 minutes available so all could still play 30+ minutes.  Another out of the box options would be to trade the pick, possibly to the Phoenix Suns who have picks 14, 18, and 27.  That would put them in range for when the SG/SF players that fit their roster needs are projected.  Those14-18 range could see James Young, Rodney Hood, Zach Levine, and of course our old friend Nik Stauskas be drafted.  Also this gives Utah extra picks in what is considered a deep draft.  Whatever happens hopefully Trey Burke's situation improves.

Comments

All Day

May 20th, 2014 at 9:51 PM ^

I lived in Utah for a few years. I was really hoping they'd end up in a position to get Parker as I think it would be the most mutually beneficial partnership out there. But yeah, they have to take randle.

FreddieMercuryHayes

May 20th, 2014 at 9:56 PM ^

I don't see them taking another PG. Just makes no sense without seeing what Burke can really do as he ages. He had a pretty damn good rookie campaign once healthy. If they can't get one of the elite athletic scorers, I would think one of the elite bigs would make the most sense. Randle doesn't come with the health issues and may be more certain, but Embiid can be Elite with his size and athleticism.

LSAClassOf2000

May 20th, 2014 at 10:36 PM ^

There isn't much in the way of revised mock draft yet to fuel speculations, but USA Today seems to have already produced a revised guess here - LINK

At the moment, they have gone with Utah taking Julius Randle actually, with Embiid, Parker, Wiggins and Exum going ahead of him in their estimation. 

atom evolootion

May 21st, 2014 at 12:00 AM ^

I don't see Marcus smart taking trey's spot... next year, trey might be a Chris Paul clone. Marcus smart seems to have a mixture of some of derrick rose's attributes and lance stephenson's. he's a baller, but not a point guard...

atom evolootion

May 21st, 2014 at 10:18 AM ^

whoa... that " might be" is there for a reason...

besides assist numbers, though, how much is Chris Paul different from trey Burke? next year, trey might be at seventeen points and eight assists to Chris Paul's nineteen and ten...on a team with Griffin, Jordan, Crawford, and reddick... say it can't happen...and I'll virtually kick you both in the ear... :-)

atom evolootion

May 21st, 2014 at 12:29 PM ^

"won't happen" and "can't happen" are different animals...and I'm not sure what your punishment should be. why do we all of a sudden think trey is some kind of scrub who can't go from decent to good to great after we've already seen him go from three-star recruit to b1g freshman star to player of the year? he would've been a junior in college last year and averaged twelve and nearly six assists with the big boys, but he can't...or won't get any better? the jazz'll cut him next year, right? or he'll turn into Andre Miller during the off-season, as opposed to becoming more adept at scoring and assisting on a pick-and-roll team...

03 Blue 07

May 22nd, 2014 at 9:51 AM ^

I think their beef is that Chris Paul is the best point guard in the NBA (with props to Tony Parker, who might be 1A), and though Trey's numbers may approach CP3's (as you point out), Trey would need to do it for years and do it as the leader of his team, one of the best leaders in the NBA, take his team to Western Conference Finals, etc. Also, when CP3 was with the Hornets, he was in a comparable spot to where Trey's at now...and all CP3 did was lead the league in assists and steals while averaging 22 ppg from 2007-2009. When Trey puts up close to those numbers (22, 12, 2-3 steals) and not close to Paul's current numbers on a much better team (18 and 10), then you have a much stronger case for Trey being ready to emerge as a CP3. 

Does he have the potential? Sure. And I tend to agree with you that he has a bright future ahead of him, possibly as the NBA's best point guard. But I can easily see why others have objected to the CP3 comparison, since in a similar situation (on a mediocre team, at the same age or thereabouts), Paul did a hell of a lot more than we've seen Burke do thus far. 

atom evolootion

May 22nd, 2014 at 9:57 AM ^

wasn't Paul a sixteen and eight guy his rookie year? twelve and six isn't that far off the mark. I did say what trey "might" do. the others are saying what he won't and can't do. speed (reading) kills, I suppose. we'll see what burkules does this year. if he reverts to something like a three-star high school recruit, I'll shut up...

JSK23

May 21st, 2014 at 1:48 AM ^

Vonleh:  "Jazz fans have to be devastated. They have zero shot of landing Jabari Parker here. And their other targets are all gone as well. They do not really need another power forward, but at this point, that is the value left on the board. Vonleh has the ability to stretch the floor should be intriguing to the Jazz."

 

 

lilpenny1316

May 21st, 2014 at 8:49 AM ^

The owner that wouldn't let Joe D amnesty Ben Gordon's contract and forced him to make that awful trade.  Even though the Lions are a pain to follow, at least they make no bones about their creating a video game offense.  With the Pistons, they still seem to have no direction or focus.

dahblue

May 21st, 2014 at 9:15 AM ^

Did "the owner" force Joe to acquire Ben Gordon? Charlie V? Allen Iverson? Josh Smith? Brandon Jennings?  How about passing on Trey Burke?  Was that "the owner" as well?

Look, I don't blame it all on Joe (and I've been a huge fan of his in the past), but he made a series of terrible decisions.  The ownership limbo (due to the settlement of the Davidson estate) did result in some tied hands, but it had little to do with the overall mess the team is in.

lilpenny1316

May 21st, 2014 at 9:49 PM ^

When the owner goes "playoffs or else", you have to take a high risk/high reward approach and grab Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings, and pass over a potentially solid PG in Burke.  

And if you look at Ben Gordon and Charlie V, who else were they going to get?  Ben was a 20PPG scorer his last year with the Bulls.  And he was 26.  It's easy to criticize the deal now, but at the time people thought he may be the next Rip.  Joe followed the textbook to get cap space for the FA class of 2010 (Wade, LeBron, Bosh, Melo), but he knew in the summer of 2009 that those guys had no interest in coming here.  He tried to improve the roster as opposed to waiting and getting shut out the next year. 

I'm not excusing the bad moves and revolving door of coaches, but I can understand the difficulty of running a team with ownership issues the past 4+ years and in a less than desirable free agent destination.  

umumum

May 21st, 2014 at 9:22 AM ^

the Jazz have more than one need, but they are in an excellent position to trade up for one of the top 4.  Sending this year's 6th pick and next year 1st round pick (for let's say the other team's 2nd) would have to be tempting to those above them--particularly for Parker, who I'm guessing Utah most covets.

UMClassOf2018

May 21st, 2014 at 9:53 AM ^

Everyone is assuming the top 3 will be Embiid, Wiggins, and Parker in some order, with Exum going 4th. However, if Embiid/Wiggins go 1/2, and the 76ers fall in love with Exum and take him 3 (imagine him and MCW together... that would be crazy), I could definitely see the Jazz trying to trade up a spot to grab Parker at #4. Orlando would then be in position to get a big return to just move down one spot and take a guy like Marcus Smart who they've apparently coveted since last year. I could definitely see this scenario unfolding.

AA2Denver

May 21st, 2014 at 10:29 AM ^

I hadn't thought about this scenario and it could totally happen. Everybody knows that Parker/Jazz is the perfect fit but what do they give up? This years #23 pick and/or next years #1. I'd do it. The Jazz want players that will stick around past their first contracts, again, Parker is perfect.

AA2Denver

May 21st, 2014 at 10:25 AM ^

The Jazz got screwed. 

I think they go Vonleh and make him a 3/4, or McDermott to pair with their bigs. Randle is another option but they have Favors, who is bigger and improving each season. Smart makes no sense because of Burks, not because of Trey. 

They also pick 23rd, among who I think will be available, GR3 would be a perfect fit. They need a 2/3/4 hybrid.

The starting line-up (omitting non-future players) - Trey, Hayward, Vonleh, Favors, Kantor. Burks, GR3 off the bench. That's a solid young squad. There are no superstars but enough decent players where they could push for the 8th spot in the West. They need a better coach. I think they will have a ton of cap space in the next couple of years - but who wants to go to Salt Lake?

 

bronxblue

May 21st, 2014 at 12:40 PM ^

Feels like they'll take Randle, but who knows what might actually happen between now and the actual draft.  Nobody saw Bennett going #1 last year, and maybe Utah will just trade down a bit and try to nab a cheaper option later on.

Rhino77

May 21st, 2014 at 3:30 PM ^

I saw the Bulls play the Jazz at the UC this year and I tell ya what they have potential. If that Rudy Gobert figures things out he could be decent. Only 21, 7'2. Even if he could go for 10&10 he would be an asset.