Today’s MSU outrage Apparently Engler has attempted to bypass the victims attorneys
April 13th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^
It's offensive that Engler can thinks he can make this whole thing just go away by buying victims off. Cue the tire fire gif.
April 13th, 2018 at 12:35 PM ^
Or the Picard Facepalm Meme
I think this one is from episode 48. He had just received news that he lost yet another Ensign. The 48th to pass since he took over as captain. This time Ensign Roger Donovan of the USS Hathaway, a former member of the enterprise crew, had passed away while exploring a nebula as a part of an away team. He was the only member of the highly decorated crew that didn’t return to the ship.
down like a tire fire. This gets more disgusting by the day.
April 13th, 2018 at 10:17 PM ^
You are all overreacting. It's ESPN that's out to get the green. It's just not right man.
/s
April 13th, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^
To use a sports metaphor, Engler's tenure is beginning to remind me of the Mike Haywood hire at Pitt. He never coached a game and was fired within about 30 days of taking the job.
Engler has done literally nothing correct yet. He's been the MSU President for about 90 days and every action he takes makes the school look worse. It's time for MSU to take themselves seriously and hire a real university president.
April 13th, 2018 at 12:45 PM ^
To paraphrase using a food metaphor, Engler passes on a mistake like he passes on Golden Corral...
MSU: "Yes, we are serious...this is getting ridicu.... Oh, piece of candy."
April 13th, 2018 at 12:38 PM ^
Surprised by the awful behavior in this case by msu.
I keep being surprised.
April 13th, 2018 at 12:38 PM ^
Kaylee Lorincz says Engler offered her $250,000 to drop her civil suit during a meeting this month @WLNS pic.twitter.com/TcUhUmJ4kZ
— Madeline Odle (@MadelineWLNS) April 13, 2018
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2018/04/13/nassar-…
Holy shit.
Is exactly what I thought verbatim before I scrolled. What a fucking scumbag.
I am stunned.
And so sad...I hate that this is happening in the state I grew up in. Makes me sick.
April 13th, 2018 at 12:39 PM ^
“Your time is up,” said Engler to the presenter once his five minutes of allotted speaking time was up.
“No, your time is up,” said student protestors in the crowd to Engler. They are wearing signs over their mouths said read, “silenced” @thesnews pic.twitter.com/Ldu2zZwXdu— Mila Murray (@mila_murray) April 13, 2018
Al in his prime right there. Plus the clip fits the shit show going on up in EL.
April 13th, 2018 at 12:40 PM ^
Some in crowd shout “resign” at the board @WLNS pic.twitter.com/ry3J1uR3pv
— Madeline Odle (@MadelineWLNS) April 13, 2018
April 13th, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^
My favorite quote was this gem that completely and efficiently summarizes exactly what’s wrong at MSU:
Engler, she said, replied that MSU and Nassar's victims couldn't work together until the civil suits, filed by more than 250 women, were settled
There you have the entire problem. Unless MSU can escape liability, they have zero interest in meaningful reforms or changes to their toxic culture.
April 13th, 2018 at 10:57 PM ^
And if they escape liability, there will be no meaningful changes. Catch-22 here for the victims, which means MSU won't change a thing...
April 13th, 2018 at 12:43 PM ^
...the answer is, as always, 'yes':
@KayleeLorincz says she reached out to Rachael Denhollander to ask about Engler's claim that "Rachael gave me a number," says Denhollander told her she had never met with Engler.
— Kate Wells (@KateLouiseWells) April 13, 2018
April 13th, 2018 at 12:53 PM ^
perjury in a civil suit. that's fresh
April 13th, 2018 at 12:49 PM ^
of epic proportion. I can't think of a bigger moron in this moment. The majority of us thought this was a stupid move based on Engler's past on dealing with sexual harrassment or assault, or not dealing with it. I'm now convinced that members of the blog could run MSU better than they can.
April 13th, 2018 at 12:52 PM ^
We were just treated to dozens of comments about how eminently qualified they were for these posts.
I thought at the time that he was a credible choice. Alum, competent, executive experience - some of the things I pointed out in my post here on 30-January-2018.
Unfortunately, he is reverting back to showing one of his big negative traits. He had a habit of acting like a bully when he was Governor, and he's acting the same way again.
So I was wrong when I made that post back 2.5 months ago. The last thing MSU needs now is a President who is acting like a bully. But that's where we are. I thought he could, but the old dog is showing incapable of changing his temperament.
Longer-term, a number of the MSU Board members MUST get voted out as soon as possible. That's on the voters of the state of Michigan.
The problem isn’t that he’s a bully, it’s who he is bullying
He should be bullying everyone at MSU to get their act together, insist on doing the right thing by the victims, follow the law, etc.
are the ones who most need to be "bullied." Bullied right out of their jobs
But even if Engler wasn't "buddy buddy" with them, there's no real mechanism for pushing them out.
It's definitely a mess.
As President, he’s presumably the point man with general counsel - he should be helping craft an ethical and moral legal strategy, with at least some focus on the well-being of students and the long-term reputation of Michigan State, instead of this reflexive short-term effort to just shut this crisis down. He’s not running a private corporation which only concerns itself with profit.
There was a chance to come out of this looking as good as a rape-enabling school possibly could. They’ve somehow managed to make themselves look worse.
Longer-term, a number of the MSU Board members MUST get voted out as soon as possible. That's on the voters of the state of Michigan.
With pleasure.
April 13th, 2018 at 12:56 PM ^
He strikes me as a guy that still thinks it's the 1960's. Probably would've thrived at Sterling-Cooper-Draper-Pryce
Engler would've been at the top for a bit but eventually would've tried to boss around Don Draper, and Don would just blow smoke in his face from his lucky-strike ciggerate and get Roger to shitcan his fat ass
April 13th, 2018 at 12:55 PM ^
This guy is the exact opposite of Winston Wolf. If Engler were in Pulp Fiction, he would have told Vincent and Jules to smear Marvin's blood all over their faces, murder Jimmie and Bonnie, then dispose of the bodies on the steps of the local police station.
So pretty please, with a cherry on top, clean the fucking car.
April 13th, 2018 at 12:56 PM ^
I am speechless
April 13th, 2018 at 12:58 PM ^
And that he thinks his first priority is to make sure MSU limits its monetary losses & makes the problem go away, as opposed to overhauling the culture, properly taking care of the victims along with current & future students?
I would have never have guessed this.
I am shocked.
IT DOES!!!!! Unbelievable the behavior at MSU...unreal...its textbook in what NOT TO DO
every right-thinking MSU student should just transfer immediately
Gotta be better than Engler. He's an academic who seems to hire capable people under him. He likes some UM basketball, hasn't put me to sleep at numerous commencements, and has some mild student protests over his/regents policies as is to be expected. Huzzah!
The way I see it, private (or attempted private) hush money is self-incrimination. The fact that Engler is trying to circumvent the justice system just makes this all the worse. I sincerely hope for every victim's sake that the courts see right through all of this literal shit and disembowel the MSU board and every coach, staff member, counselor, etc that was connected with this mess. Nothing makes me angrier than telling a victim that they don't deserve a voice.
Double post
Engler is a career politician turned lobbyist turned whatever you want to call him now. The bag of money is still quite apropros.
Tells me you aren’t a lawyer. Of course Engler and MSU continually fuck things up, but most to all of settlement negotiations are money for silence/loss of rights to bring suit. Engler should have known better than to meet an unsophisticated plaintiff without counsel present, but the fact that MSU wants to settle doesn’t ensure culpability at all. There’s a reason over 95% of cases never see a court room, it’s a lot cheaper and more certain to buy someone off than go through a trial. Evidence of settlement negotiations cannot be used at trial, so there is no downside for a defendant to offer money.
Having said all that, fuck MSU.
And repercussions come? The longer this drags out the more stupid people think this was just a dream.