Three Michigan State Players Officially Named, Charged

Submitted by Mercury Hayes on June 6th, 2017 at 10:04 AM

The three Michigan State players involved in the alleged sexual assault from January have been named and officially charged. The players are Josh King, Donnie Corley and Demetrius Vance. Story below.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2017/06/06/sexual-a…

If content going around Twitter this AM is true, then these players are going to jail. There is no room for jokes. These guys not only ruined a young woman's life, but their own.

Comments

dieseljr32

June 6th, 2017 at 10:09 AM ^

At what point does Mark Hollis look at the football program and ask himself if Mark Dantonio failed to monitor his program? Like this is just nuts what is happening in East Lansing.

We can hate on them from a rivalry standpoint, but this is like Baylor-lite.

Stringer Bell

June 6th, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^

No, but this makes 4 players potentially facing serious jail time for sexual assault this offseason alone.  Combine that with all of the other stuff that has happened to them this offseason and it's looking like more than just isolated incidents of college kids being stupid.

jcpdog

June 6th, 2017 at 10:39 AM ^

At Least MSU got a written report that can be read and examined and show some accountability. What did Baylor do again.....?? Just not even a close comparison as to what is going on in Waco in my view....

jcpdog

June 6th, 2017 at 10:28 AM ^

Trust me Stringer.....This has nothing on Baylor. Keep in mind there are 9 Title IX Lawsuits currently going on against Baylor. They have been through at least two Title IX Coordinators since this started and they quit/resigned because they got NO cooperation from the Baylor Administration. This also doesn't take into account the recent allegation that Freshman Football players had an initiation where they assaulted one of the Volleyball players at a party and filmed it and that was swept under the rug. Baylor has a serious cloud above it at least in the eyes of a lot of people here in Texas.....

bacon

June 6th, 2017 at 1:16 PM ^

Agreed with one small caveat. Coaches should be held accountable for the types of players they recruit and Art Briles chose some pretty suspect players for his teams. All coaches should be judged on their track record in this regard. Dantonio has a track record and this adds to it. It's nowhere as bad as Urban Meyer was at Florida, but let's not give him a pass on that aspect.

Cali's Goin' Blue

June 6th, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^

UNTIL THE END??? The staff wanted Corley bad. You can't just say that MORK should be held accountable for recruiting him when every team in the country would've taken him last year. Utterly ridiculous. If he ended up at Michigan, then according to your logic, Harbaugh should be punished for recruiting him. Ridiculous

TrueBlue2003

June 6th, 2017 at 8:34 PM ^

Good or bad. College kids (most people for that matter) go with the crowd.  If you have a few guys rough around the edges amonst a bunch of good dudes, the good guys will tend to keep them in line.  If the other way around, and you have some good guys amonst a bunch of bad, good luck trying to keep the good guys good.  

bacon

June 6th, 2017 at 9:31 PM ^

If Dantonio had just taken Corely, then it wouldn't be a pattern. This is three players. And a recruit who couldn't sign this year because he was in jail on signing day. And a certain running back who went to jail and played again for the team days after his release. Or 13 players who were involved in the nerd massacre. And many more players with off the field issues. That's a pattern.

yossarians tree

June 6th, 2017 at 10:44 AM ^

Dantonio and MSU appear to have done everything they could do properly after these crimes came to light, but there is now a preponderence of evidence that Dantonio has lost control of his lockerroom. Part of the success he has been able to build is due to his (and Narduzzi's) promotion of a football culture that breeds a chip on the shoulder toughness bordering on thuggery ("we try for unneccesary roughness on every play"). This served them well for a time but now the chickens are coming home to roost.

wolverine1987

June 6th, 2017 at 10:55 AM ^

which is completely wrong. Everything I read says that once confronted with the information, he immediately did exactly what he is supposed to do. There is nothing in his background or in fact MSU's background that says anything different, or says that they have a culture that encourages this behavior. Now, it's possible (I'm not buying it but it is possible) that he's lost the locker room as you say. But that is far different.

crg

June 6th, 2017 at 11:35 AM ^

The real issue is that, while dantonio and their AD responded correctly to this incident, it came only after 1) they were already under investigation for another incident within the dept (Nassar) and 2) the recent debacle that was exposed at Baylor. There are still serious issues going back beyond that time about how well their various programs (fb, bb) have addressed internal discipline and reporting. This latest incident does not absolve him/them of any of it; it is easy to do the right thing when everyone is watching you.

ijohnb

June 6th, 2017 at 11:47 AM ^

it right there.  I have heard just about enough from every single local media outlet about the "class" Mark Dantonio and Tom Izzo and how they are just "stand up guys" etc. etc. etc., when the facts and the history of their respective tenures and the track records of their players and former players do not back up that narrative. 

If this happened at Michigan, it would not matter what Harbaugh did or did not do and/or how quickly he did it, he would be skewered for the atmosphere he had created and what happened on his watch, both locally and nationally.  Both Dantonio and Izzo have been looking the other way regarding disciplinary issues for some time now and they have been allowed to, (while Michigan was on probation for stretching) and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Michigan State fans have been unbearable for the last seven years, never missing an opportunity to kick us in the face while we are down.  There should be no life jackets being thrown from this side of the aisle right now.  

bluestaffah

June 6th, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^

Perhaps the adults in the room? We love M and support the team with a fervor unknown to mankind but not at all cost. The M majority still are able to disconnect sport from real life. Dantonio is a douche, I bet we all agree. His team plays a dirty style but they are still humans and deserve respect, compassion, and respect outside the lines. We would want the same for those at M who get off the straight and narrow. I'm not defending what they have allegedly done, but rather that they deserve the same courtesy's​ we would want for our beloved teams and coaching staffs.

Blue in Paradise

June 6th, 2017 at 12:39 PM ^

You are correct regarding what would happen on RCMB (in fact, they are ridiculously trying to make the Grand Perry case the equivalent of their situation). 

In the end, who cares what a bunch of random anonymous internet trolls at RCMB would do.  That is not the standard that I hold myself to - I believe in the Michigan Difference and while I certainly have failed that standard from time to time, it is what I strive for.

LDNfan

June 7th, 2017 at 2:47 AM ^

Yep...just reading the Brad Hawkins Hello Post where there is a link to an article about Harbaugh's recruiting style..and do you remember this doozy:

Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio and recruiting coordinator Curtis Blackwell both tweeted: “The righteous shall prevail,” though Dantonio quickly deleted it.

That was in reference to allegations that Harbaugh was pushing guys out of his first class for better talent. 

He's been a virtual anti-UM quote machine since arriving at MSU. 

So yeah..enough with  the MD love....that guy has run an errant program for some time. Tons of off and ON field incidents, plus the whole PED cloud floating over EL since he arrived. 

Stringer Bell

June 6th, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^

I think it's more than just "he lost the lockerroom". I mean, he brought in a guy (Robertson) who had a history of this type of behavior, and then gave him enough slack where he could commit a sexual crime again. He deserves a very small amount of credit for not turning it into a Baylor situation, but he needs to be held accountable for the fact that a number of his players have caused irreparable damage to regular MSU students.

LSAClassOf2000

June 6th, 2017 at 11:39 AM ^

I definitely agree with others that Dantonio has done what he should have done throughout this horrible mess, but I think that this is actually an interesting question, the locker room / culture question. I guess I'll put it like this - has the thrust of the culture which Dantonio created in order to propel success at MSU actually made them vulnerable to these problems, particularly in the absence of success in a given season? 

stephenrjking

June 6th, 2017 at 11:21 AM ^

Not enough information to know that. Dantonio doesn't make people commit criminal acts (or, at least, nobody thinks he has). It is worth asking questions about Robertson, who was already in trouble before he came to MSU; but if Corley, King, and/or Vance were guys who had clean records and no remarkable indications of trouble, bringing them into the program isn't on Dantonio. 

Now, perhaps they had already seen guys get away with stuff that Dantonio didn't confront. That would, hopefully, be revealed by thorough media investigations. If so, that could level blame on Dantonio. But if there was no such issue in the football program, then they acted abusively on their own, and the the program can't do anything about that. 

My hope is that a thorough investigation will reveal whether or not there has been a culture of failing to confront infractions that could lead football players to believe that they can basically do what they feel like without consequence. It's possible that there has been such a culture; it's also possible that there hasn't. But the stuff that has happened this offseason at least warrants a serious look to see if there's fire underneath all this smoke.

SoDak Blues

June 6th, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^

Agreed. Yossarian (above) had a nice take on why some of this may be occuring that I really liked. Not saying this is absolute truth or that daming Dantonio is the right move, but there is something to the culture there.

Part of the success he has been able to build is due to his (and Narduzzi's) promotion of a football culture that breeds a chip on the shoulder toughness bordering on thuggery ("we try for unneccesary roughness on every play"). This served them well for a time but now the chickens are coming home to roost.