A thread about Sparty Meltodown that didn't go well.

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EDIT II: This is what not to do...when you get negbang.....Try to stop it, then make it worse, and then make it even worse than worse.

EDIT:  wasn't expecting such bad feedback..... delete if seemed necessary

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CRISPed in the DIAG

December 5th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^

They're BITTER today.  Holy shit.  Our fanbase will rage, but I get the impression we are self-critical to a fault.  Are Spartans able to rationalize this?  In other words, have you heard any Sparty wonder why they didn't have a "safe" return called when they were flagged for running into the kicker? 

Let's try to be compassionate - we'd be a little upset today, as well.

Lampuki22

December 5th, 2011 at 4:30 PM ^

It's awesome.  They are losing it.   I avoided Sparty today.  Tommorrow I seek them out.

No offense to the non-alums while I go arrogant here but it must be like the day many of them got their skinny letter which started  "We are sorry to inform you that that your application to the Universty of Michigan has been rejected..."  It brought up that instituional rejection memory they never quite shook from their perky blonde heads (no offense to blondes)

 

 

 

rederik

December 5th, 2011 at 11:20 PM ^

To be frank, I'd say that someone who got into Michigan and chose not to go is someone far dumber than someone who wanted to go to Michigan but simply couldn't get in. If you had the M in your hands and dropped it, you should be ashamed...

RoxyMtnHiM

December 6th, 2011 at 12:01 AM ^

To be frank, I'd say that's the dumbest fucking thing I've seen today that wasn't on the RCMB. But since you aren't able to imagine any circumstances beyond your own, I'll add that I didn't chose not to go. It would be nice if 17yo's had that much control over things, but it sure didn't work that way in my case.

rederik

December 6th, 2011 at 12:27 AM ^

Maybe that came across as a little flamebait-ish.,, but I stand by my point. How you equate "circumstances beyond control" with someone who chooses not to go is beyond me. Clearly, if they chose not to go, it implies they had a choice. [And furthermore, as someone who didn't come from means but went to M anyway, I'd argue that you should want to make it happen no matter what. But I'll set that aside and stick with my original point, "choice."] I have friends who grew up Michigan fans and didn't get in, and then became State fans when they got in there. I'm not happy about it, but they were (literally) rejected by the school they loved, naturally felt scorned, and wanted to be a part of their new school... so I can at least understand it.

What I don't understand is someone with the opportunity to join one of the greatest universities in the world and CHOOSES (being the operative word) not to attend it. Obviously, circumstances outside the applicant's control wouldn't fall under the category of his "choice," would it? Because for it to be a choice, it has to be a viable option. Otherwise, it was never really a choice.

Additionally, you have no basis to assume I can't understand others' circumstances. Far from it--I just happen to think they there aren't very many that can justify passing on the University of Michigan. And if you think that somehow makes this "the dumbest fucking thing outside of RCMB," I suppose I'll have to respectfully disagree.

rederik

December 6th, 2011 at 8:19 AM ^

There's no apology in there. But if you read one in it, maybe that also explains how you saw things in my first post that weren't there. I absolutely stick by my point: choice + admittance + not going to Michigan = stupid.

ArmyBlue

December 6th, 2011 at 4:47 PM ^

unless you simply had a better educational opportunity.  Chose West Point over Michigan...best decision I ever made.   "= stupid"?  Hardly.  Doesn't mean I don't love UM any less; just had an opportunity of a lifetime for higher education AND future service.  Passing on that would've been stupid.

BlueinGR

December 6th, 2011 at 10:34 PM ^

People choose their schools for a variety of reasons, personal, pragmatic, patriotic, and on and on.  A lifelong, die hard Michigan fan, I had the opportunity to go to UofM for undergrad and graduate school, but, for reasons of my own, chose to go to other schools where I got an excellent education; I would choose to go to them again without thinking twice.  Neither of those decisions diminished my love and support for Michigan in any way.  It is self-evidently stupid to assume that every decision not to attend Michigan, despite the opportunity, is a stupid decision.

BOX House

December 5th, 2011 at 4:36 PM ^

Personally I thought it was bad from both sides. After the BCS selection show, my facebook newsfeed was barraged by some of the stupider Michigan fans I know saying things like "Suck it Sparty!" (completely unneccesary for one, and also stupid because we lost to them this year). And then there were Sparties of course whining incessantly and resorting to the classic "Michigan girls are ugly" and posting that godawful Drew Sharp article in their defense.

To me, it is what it is. MSU was better than us in the head-to-head game and that's all that matters to me. We're going to a better bowl, but I would have much rather have been playing in the B1G championship.

UMfan21

December 5th, 2011 at 4:45 PM ^

Most of myMSU friends and family have been tolerable. But I have one friend who is now on a crusade to overhaul the BCS (he never seemed to care until this year)
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<br>He actually told be "ont attempt to rationalize this" to which I made a snide comment about his IRrational thoughts.

Gorgeous Borges

December 5th, 2011 at 4:56 PM ^

MSU didn't deserve to play in a BCS bowl. They lost three games, and so other teams were ranked ahead of them and they didn't make the top 14. It's not like BCS bowls even had a choice to pick MSU for a BCS and passed them over for Michigan. MSU fans have very little reason at all to be upset that they didn't get a BCS bowl. Yet many of them seem to be.

The real reason they seem to be so upset is that Michigan got one and was undeserving. But Michigan didn't succeed at the expense of MSU in this case. In fact, you can make a case that Michigan going to the BCS actually helped MSU get a better bowl, because Michigan would not be competing with MSU for the Capital One/Outback/Gator bowls. The Spartiest thing to do is to root against your own interest. Plus, Michigan's in a BCS bowl with a very beatable opponent. Anyway, this benefits Sparty in every way except recruiting.

snackyx

December 5th, 2011 at 11:21 PM ^

If Michigan had not been in the bowl picture this year, there would be very little yapping out of Spartyville--they would go to Florida and play in their bowl and that would be that...

BUT...with Michigan back in the bowl scene, and now going to a BCS and they don't, everything is magnified, the world is out to screw them, Michigan doesn't deserve it...blah blah blah.

Their obsession with all things Michigan is unmistakable and predictable.  Spartan Football--GREEN with envy.  (...and I do think those crumpled up letters from Ted Spencer wishing them well in whatever academic endeavour they pursue don't help things)

 

alwaystrueblue

December 5th, 2011 at 5:12 PM ^

and then i am done with sparties.

 

Why the whining?? You won the division. You got the honor of playing in the first championship game. Take pride in that.

You had the channce to play in the "grand-daddy of them all"...the Rose Bowl!

Thats a BCS bowl last i looked. 

You blew it. Plain and simple. So after choking at your chance you think the powers that be should swoop in and send you to some OTHER BCS bowl as a reward?? Would you feel the same way had it been the Wolverines in the exact same situation?  Did'nt think so.

You took a stupid penalty that cost you the Rose bowl and now its everyone else's fault that you got left out?

As your QB stated.....the Wolverines were "home sitting on the couch" because we did not earn the right to play in that game. You did. And you LOST.

 

The bowl system is not fair.      Just like life.      Deal with it.

bronxblue

December 6th, 2011 at 12:02 AM ^

My only counter to to this is that VT also lost its automatic bid opportunity, and lost it rather impressively to Clemson, yet they are going to a BCS bowl.  Their resume isn't close to that of MSU's, and yet they were chosen for reasons beyond what happened on the field.  I honestly think the MSU faithful don't care that much that UM made the BCS if MSU had also made it, but when a system rewards being blown out in your conference championship while punishing another team for losing close, that doesn't feel right.

WhoopinStick

December 5th, 2011 at 5:17 PM ^

If MSU would have beaten ND and lost to UM then things would have been reversed.  UM would have been in the B1G title game and MSU would have been home watching from the couch.    If MSU is so upset with the way things turned out tell them to lose to us next year and things will be better!

marco dane

December 5th, 2011 at 5:25 PM ^

Bowl selection have been this way if we're talking about fairness.

I'd like for Michigan to have played in the B1G Championship Game...atleast lil brotha could have sat on the couch. 

Whiner alert should be employed...

WhoopinStick

December 5th, 2011 at 5:31 PM ^

When I saw the Spartan player run into the punter near the end of the game I couldn't believe that Dantonio went for a punt block instead of setting up the return.  After that, all I could think of was one of JL Smith's rants:

"The kids are playing their tails off and the coaches are screwing it up!"

 

 

brucek58

December 5th, 2011 at 6:06 PM ^

I'm still not sold that Dantonio made the call. It could have been Lewis acting on his own to try and redeem himself for the 4th down screwup on Wisconsin's game winning drive.

Nevertheless, can one tell from watching the play if a punt block was on or not?