Temptation: ? about new tag ending

Submitted by FL on September 9th, 2012 at 5:39 AM
Noticed from watching the game on TV yesterday that "Temptation" seems to have a new, two-note tag ending. Any reason for this? Is it an attempt to squelch the "you suck" chant?



September 9th, 2012 at 5:56 AM ^

"Is it an attempt to squelch the "you suck" chant?"

Seemed like it to me. 

Which of course, the students repsonded  by yelling "you suck" even more.


Stike A Pose

September 9th, 2012 at 10:03 AM ^

Not saying I disagree with you about the chant, but saying it's beneth our fanbase is exactly how we get a reputation of being arrogant because we think we're better than everyone else.

95% of the people chanting "you suck" is the student section.  Is it also beneth our fanbase for those same students to be under age drinking, or smoking the wacky tabacky before games?

Now, if there is a down in front guy chanting you suck, then yes, classless and beneth our fanbase.  Students?  Let them have some fun.  It's hardly the worst thing they could chant.


September 9th, 2012 at 9:40 AM ^

It seems we can but we can't. It's pretty bad when "you suck" is the height of the witticism the student section can muster.

Also, the band shouldn't play it for anything but a three and out. Going back to the RR days, it's ridiculous to here "you suck" after the opponent just jammed the ball up our asses for 65 yards only to settle for a FG attempt. Or when the go for it and pick up the first.


September 9th, 2012 at 9:37 AM ^

It started about halfway during the season last year. Professor Boerma was under pressure from the athletic department to do something to cover up the "You Suck" chant or risk not playing Temptation anymore (whether this threat was actually legit or a scare tactic I don't know).


September 9th, 2012 at 10:19 AM ^

The issue according to some friends in the marching band was that the mics would always pick it up so it was louder than it used to be. The solution last year was twofold, a)band played an additional note to hopefully drown out some of the you suck and b) trying to convince people to say "Hoke smash." The latter never really caught on perhaps because only mention of it was in personal conversation and the fact that it is irrelevant.

Anyone know when the chant first started?

South Bend Wolverine

September 9th, 2012 at 11:00 AM ^

I really don't get why folks are so worked up about the "You suck" chant.  Yeah, it's not especially clever.  Neither are most chants.  It's hardly the most offensive thing you'll hear at a UM sporting event (just try Yost if this one bothers you).  I'll agree that it's a little silly when we do it right before an obvious go-for-it 4th down or after a long drive ending in a FG, but that's on the band for playing it at the wrong time, not the students.  Seems someone's wine has turned to vinegar and their cheese has gotten moldy.


September 9th, 2012 at 11:13 AM ^

I think we have other things to worry about instead of you suck. God forbid a bunch of 18-23 yr olds having fun at a football game.

The fact that this fanbase is worried about what other people think is the bigger problem for me. I mean who cares it's a freaking college football game if some young people yelling "you suck" bothers you then perhaps they should stay at home and watch figure skating.


September 9th, 2012 at 1:08 PM ^

100,000 attendance nationally televised game with thousands of opposing fans over some sport no one watches on tv that had tiny attendance and no one outside a tiny circle of fans pays attention to.

And for what it's worth, there have been warnings, emails, releases, and weakly enforced threats at Yost too. So the either-or thing is a straw man, because they've tried to stop both.

When the band stops playing Temptation for a 4 year period it'll change. These things can be changed if the parties involved don't want to act like the adults they claim to be, if the will is there. They don't throw marshmallows at the Stadium anymore, and that went on longer than "you suck."


September 15th, 2012 at 10:56 PM ^

We need to change it by not playing it for a good 4-5 years to break the habit.  I've been thinking about writing a letter to Brandon about stopping it.  It's not "only in the student section".  I'm in Section 3 and there are an embarrassing number of people doing it there too.  I've started to yell "Defense" but I just get a soar throat and frustrated.  Today, my 21 yr old daughter who's a student elsewhere looked at me surprised when it was done the first time and said "Is that new?"

(Thanks for letting me get this off my chest, for today anyway!!!)

NOLA Wolverine

September 9th, 2012 at 11:30 AM ^

Yeah, those are charitable analogies to chanting "you suck." 

I'm sorry that our chants make it harder for everyone to act smug on the interwebs, but yeah, we're going to keep doing it. Because it's sports. The whole point of sports is that it's a "distraction," a place to get away to and let some energy out. Are we being dumb if we paint our faces too? Or is sports maybe a different animal than real life?


September 9th, 2012 at 12:34 PM ^

It's pointless. Just turns the whole thing into a competition between the band and students. Unless they decide to change the ending every time, it won't work long term. I know it's not a popular opinion, but I say stop playing it during the game, period. If you're serious about stopping the chant that's the only way it's going to happen.


September 9th, 2012 at 12:37 PM ^

I apologize for using the words "classless" and "beneath."

Apparently I have steered the discussion towards elitism. I was merely trying to say that a "you suck"
chant, well, sucks.

State Street

September 9th, 2012 at 12:40 PM ^

"Chump, Dick, Pussy, Douchebag, Asshole, Prick, Cheater, Bitch, Whore, Slut, Cocksuckerrrrrrrrrrrrr.  Skipolerrrrrrrrrrrr.  Shakeweighterrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!" Is an appropriate, famed, and beloved chant but "You Suck" is not.



September 9th, 2012 at 1:24 PM ^

"You suck" is just lame.  It sounds like something you'd hear at a wannabe football school, like Purdue.  But the big problem is that the alumni aren't into it, which kills its effectiveness.  Hockey can pull it off because that sport attracts a different kind of fan.  Football fans, at this school at least, aren't into those kinds of chants.  Change it to "Go Blue," and it'll finally spread beyond the student section.  The students by themselves can't give us a homefield advantage.  We need as much alumni participation as possible.  The alums need to be conditioned to use their voices as often as they can.




September 9th, 2012 at 1:29 PM ^

The band starts playing Temptation after failed conversions, because it sounds awesome. Many years later, the student section decides to start putting "you suck" to the music. The university doesn't like the "you suck" chant (screw anyone who refers to Temptation as the "you suck" chant). They tell the director that they are considering stopping Temptation because it's not classy and alumni are complaining about it. The director doesn't want to ruin a long-standing tradition, so in an attempt to keep it going he agrees to try to cover it up with a two-note tag ending. The student section yells louder. Multiple facebook groups are made to get people to stop yelling "you suck," but only a few people actually care. A new group is made every time we play an opponent that we shouldn't yell at (yes, there was a group for Air Force), but it doesn't matter. Every year the same argument pops up, every year there's some stupid argument in the Daily, and every year nobody really does anything about it.

Future prediction? No attempts to stop it work despite seemingly obvious solutions presented to a student section that doesn't give a shit, and whoever is in charge kills Temptation. It is revived years later, and the cycle starts over.

Obviously I'm on tradition's side. It's hard for me to side with the student section when they're the only ones who aren't doing the right thing in the scenario. The only argument they have is "it's fun." Everyone else is just dealing with it, trying to make the rest of the fanbase happy.

(Negative posts sometimes try to pull it back with a "Go Blue!" or something, but I'm not going to conform.)