Tate Forcier Update
Per his Facebook:
"It's football season an I can't be more excited. First time OC/Qb coach at Serra High school in San Diego. Can't wait to coach these athletes I have! Receiving core says D1 Across the board. I have a Qb who can get them the ball. Couldn't be more excited to share my knowledge and experience with this team."
And 67-65
August 7th, 2015 at 10:26 AM ^
Game ironically ended in 3OT on defensive stop.
Wheeeeeeel Route!! Cover that damn guy!!
August 7th, 2015 at 10:53 AM ^
game that we didn't quite pull out but he led us back. I remember him sitting on the field utterly exhausted trying to catch his breath. . .
August 7th, 2015 at 11:40 AM ^
State's D was gassed and we were juiced after scoring with 2 secs left. I liked, and still like, our chances if we'd gone for the win in regulation.
August 7th, 2015 at 11:56 AM ^
Agreed. Buggered me then and now.
Mostly because I keep picturing a MSU defensive back tackling Desmond Howard on a two-point conversion attempt.
everybody knows how easily Sparty could fold in those situations. The desperation in the stadium was priceless.
August 7th, 2015 at 11:07 AM ^
August 7th, 2015 at 10:01 AM ^
Regardless of how is Michigan career ended, that was an exciting game and moment. And to hell with notre dame....
August 7th, 2015 at 10:22 AM ^
I think the way I feel about that game is probably similar to how a divorced person looks back on their wedding day.
August 7th, 2015 at 11:44 AM ^
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August 7th, 2015 at 12:12 PM ^
i know what you mean for sure, but I love that game unreservedely. In fact its the best game I've ever watched by far IMHO.
August 7th, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^
Nobody could pick up the blitz like Vincent Smith.
Vincent, are you sure you don't have any eligibility left?
August 7th, 2015 at 10:45 AM ^
Sometimes when you're on......
August 7th, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^
Looks like the same play TB threw to Edelman in the SB for the win.
And the other TD where he went around right end and broke the ankles of the DB trying to stop him. I swear you could hear the kid's bones snap.
What I really like about this clip: our running back picking up the blitzing linebacker and standing him straight up. I can't see his number, but is that Vincent Smith?
August 7th, 2015 at 12:34 PM ^
*corp.
Good ol' Tate. Hope he's not teaching anything besides football at that high school.
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Touche. I really wan to say i thought the 's' was there when i read it, but that is just digging deeper.
Just like you thought the 't' in 'want' was there in this post?
August 8th, 2015 at 10:29 AM ^
The subtext, the subtext, the subtext.
see that those kids take their education seriously too. (ducks)
called "how to not fuck up the biggest opportunity you'll ever be given in life"
not have lasted if he dotted every i and crossed every t. Tate was basically playing until Denard was ready, and then ND happenned and everybody was like OMG Heisman for sure right now(!!!) and things got a little complicated. I think that his "breaking point" if you will was just a matter of time, as RR was grooming Denard to be Denard. Tate's fate was going to be a clipboard and a headset. Not taking anything away from his ability but Denard was happenning regardless of what he did. I agree that he had an opportunity for something but not what we thought it was at the time.
Maybe, but mental instability doesn't prolong anyone's career. Tate had donkeybrains.
Looking at your avatar, I'm guessing that's your professional opinion.
assure you that many a great college quarterback had donkeybrains and lasted. A certain Heisman winning quarterback from FSU comes to mind. It was about ability not mental stability. He was niot big enough, fast enough, accurate enough, or arm-strong enough (or any combination of these things) to last and he had the worlds fastest man with a rocket launcher for an arm behind him and his days were numbered as soon as they started. If he was the answer long term RR would have made it work with him, donkeybrains and all, but he was really just a placeholder and I think he knew it.
August 7th, 2015 at 11:00 AM ^
Jameis Winston has donkeybrains but enough work ethic to succeed. Tate was more than talented enough to succeed in college football. Anyone who watches a single year of college football has seen successful quarterbacks with less talent.
Tate could've beaten Denard for the job. He could've. He was better at throwing the ball, which is what QBs do, and good enough at running to work in RR's system. He just got outworked beyond belief by Denard, nay, by just about literally everyone in college football. Placeholder schmaceholder, he was absolutely a legitimate contender until it became patently obvious he wasn't real interested in the grunt work.
August 7th, 2015 at 12:03 PM ^
for "schmaceholder."
August 7th, 2015 at 12:20 PM ^
+1 for a realistic view of things as they were back then.
Tate could have been a special quarterback under Rodriguez's scheme. And likely would have had he had his head screwed on straight.
Denard was blessed with an incredible set of wheels, but sometimes he relied on them too much. Against really good defenses, in particular, he would too quickly go to the QB run option and get stopped for no-gain or a small loss. Tate, I think, could have been the type of QB that would have taken that extra half-second to look for his receiver, or scramble and keep looking for his receiver. The clip against Notre Dame above shows what Tate might have been.
I love me some Denard, but let's not equate that with Tate was a mere placeholder. He had the tools to be a very good quarterback in the RR scheme. He did not have the good sense to be that, however.
August 7th, 2015 at 10:23 AM ^
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Yeah for sure, there's no way that tate would have ever played QB and maybe denard would have played running back like he does now... in the NFL. That could have never happened...
/s
I'm not sure what Denard has to do with Tate never going to class. Or being unable to transfer to another school.
say "the biggest opportunity of his life" you mean the ability to play football in college, generally? If that is what you mean than I agree.
August 7th, 2015 at 10:14 AM ^
playing back-up to Denard and getting a Michigan degree. I was no RR fan, but Tate could play. It's always sad to see talent squandered.
away the /s and you hit it on the head. RR never showed any interest or inclination of playing Denard at running back. He was always going to play quarterback, he was like RR's best dream coming true. Tate started because he was an early enrollee and knew the system to a degree to run it so he played for a while, but don't kid yourself, Denard was going to play quarterback from day 1.
August 7th, 2015 at 10:54 AM ^
Denard beat out Tate at QB. If he couldn't have, RR would absolutely have found anouther way to use him. Knowing RR, it wouldn't have been on defense.
August 7th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^
RR's best dream coming true
The reincarnation of Pat White ... which Denard could have approximateed, but I think White was a better passer. Plus Denard was operating without benefit of Steve Slaton and Noel Devine, which was a huge difference between WV 2007 and UM 2009/10.
August 7th, 2015 at 10:33 AM ^
tate could have salvaged that season after denard got hurt. he would have got plenty of PT as a backup.
August 7th, 2015 at 10:44 AM ^
Exactly. The emergence of Denard was not necessarily going to mean the disappearence of Tate.
We saw a glimpse of that in the 3OT Illinois game.
Had Tate stayed on, we would have beaten Neb and won the Legends Div. in 2012.