Tate Forcier Comparison
I usually try to avoid comparing kids in college to players in the NFL, however as a huge Michigan Wolverines fan and a huge Saints fan I will make an exception here. Does Tate's movement behind the line of scrimmage remind you of Drew Brees? The way Forcier can avoid the pass rushers and run forward into his throws, throw on the run seems similar to the way Drew Brees does.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:35 PM ^
But I see him more like Jeff Garcia.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:35 PM ^
I was just thinking that as I watched the game. I wasn't gonna say it because it is really premature, but here's to hoping because Drew Brees is awesome.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:37 PM ^
to my cousin as I was watching the Lions game today. They do seem to play similar games. Jeff Garcia is also a good comparison, I think.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:40 PM ^
compared him to a little Fran Tarkenton. FWIW
September 13th, 2009 at 7:42 PM ^
Brees' arm strength is ridiculous. Forcier has above average arm strength; I think a better comparison is Jeff Garcia.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:46 PM ^
It is now...but coming out, there were many that questioned Brees' arm strength... he got much stronger in the NFL, as did Tom Brady's arm.
Breese is still 5.11.5 though so height doesnt matter so much.
IMO, Tate is more like Colt McCoy but a little faster and more elusive.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:51 PM ^
I don't think their arm strength changed that much. They were just asked to make different throws.
Also, I don't know if I agree with your assessment of McCoy as compared to Forcier. McCoy led his team in rushing last year. I don't know if I can picture Forcier doing the same at any point...
September 13th, 2009 at 10:02 PM ^
As usual, you and I agree to disagree.
Colt McCoy ran for 561 yds all of last year... Tate is already over 100 2 games in to the season...there is a good chance that Tate ends up with more Rushing yds than Colt had last year...and Tate is only a Freshman:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/stats?playerId=175772
Many questioned Brady's arm strength and his size coming out. He got in the weight room and increased both significantly once he got in the NFL. He even won the NFL skills competition for strongest arm in 2002 with a long toss of 65 yds.
Brees was considered to have a good arm in short to intermediate routes coming out of collge, and his height was a detraction to some who grade NFL prospects. Still his production in college and accuracy couldnt be denied and he ended up as a 2nd round pick.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:09 PM ^
I could be wrong, but I don't expect Forcier to have many 70-yard rushing games.
Also, just because arm strength is questioned doesn't mean it's not there.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:46 PM ^
Tate is probably a bit more advanced than LeFevour was as a true Freshman. But the comparison is pretty close I think.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:43 PM ^
I've had so many people email me saying they can't believe Tate is a true freshman.
At the same time let's not forget Tate is a true freshman. It's inevitable that he is going to have a bad game and make freshman mistakes.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:13 PM ^
He's only a freshman, so I will use floor/ceiling. His floor is Tim Tebow riding a platinum unicorn. His ceiling is immeasurable.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:14 PM ^
Kellen Moore, Boise State.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:27 PM ^
I still think Drew Tate. D Tate had the same moxie, gritty, scrappy, Eckstein-style to his play. He had a little bit less mobility until the knee injury but was a better passer coming out of high school. D. Tate was a great QB until his team lost all ability to protect him in the 06 season.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:32 PM ^
Doug Flutie, anyone?
September 13th, 2009 at 8:42 PM ^
After he leads us to an undefeated season and a National Championship.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:44 PM ^
During the broadcast they mentioned that Forcier and Drew Brees worked out together in the San Diego area.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:45 PM ^
Forcier is God. Comparing him to mere mortals is insulting.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:09 PM ^
A young Steve Young but right handed.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:26 PM ^
The Jeff Garcia thing is getting old at this point, but that's mainly because it's spot-on. They're both very slight, slippery in the pocket but always looking downfield, can throw on the run, and have pretty good mechanics.
That being said, Garcia went to San Jose State University, so I can only assume he wasn't as good of a player coming out of high school as Forcier was.
But there are some other differences, too. For example, Forcier isn't gay.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:01 PM ^
Okay . . . you're signed up to be gay . . .
I hope you enjoy your new job as a flight attendant.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:06 PM ^
If I'm screwing Carmella I'll wear whatever silly uniform and serve you any drink you please. Now buckle up and move up your seat back, fool.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:08 PM ^
This was all well and good until you channeled Mr. T. Now I have no idea what to think.
September 14th, 2009 at 12:36 AM ^
The implication is that you're not screwing her... you're giving her money to be your beard.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:09 PM ^
How Jeff Garcia ever landed her will remain one of the great mysteries of the universe.
He used to get pissed during interviews in Philly because people always asked him "how did you get her?"
September 13th, 2009 at 11:50 PM ^
I used to work with a guy who went to HS with Garcia. He said Garcia was a "dog" and got women all the time...