Talking Deflategate to kids

Submitted by WestQuad on
Today my 7 year old son said he hated Tom Brady. When I asked why my 5 year old chirped in “because he’s a cheater.” Evidently some kid named Dylan told them about deflategate. I told my kids:

1. Tom Brady went to Michigan and Michigan players don’ cheat.

2. Brady will have played in 8 Super Bowls and will have won 6, more than any other player.

3. Temperature was the likely cause http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-deflategate-thought-experiment-could-bal…

4. Their little friend Dylan is a douche bag and should shut the hell up.

What do tell your children about Tom Brady?

big john lives on 67

February 4th, 2018 at 5:16 PM ^

In roughly 130 years of competition by the M athletic department, there are the following issues of rules being broken: 1) Bud Middaugh and the M baseball program 2) Basketball scandal under Fisher 3) Excessive stretching In other words, negligible cheating. And more accurate than the everybody cheats mantra.

Everyone Murders

February 4th, 2018 at 11:07 AM ^

Joking aside, this is a great topic and question.  I'd tell my son that while we all purport to strive for integrity, some don't really mean it.  Some seemingly successful people will cheat, lie, do basically everything. 

/Checks own user name, continues analysis.

To sum up, some people are intolerable fuckwads and it doesn't matter if they are or aren't successful, or if they do or don't go to your school, or shine on their teams.  They are a literal waste of oxygen, water, food, and other resources.  These people have negative value, and it's likely that even their own parents recognize that these people have no value.  Old people and dogs can sense these tendencies, and will not be comfortable around these ignorant misguided assholes.

In short, some people are like Dylan. 

LB

February 4th, 2018 at 11:07 AM ^

Just condsider that Dylan didn't come up with that on his own. He's parroting something he heard from his elders. You have no way of knowing what else they have told him. At best they are probably Spartys or Buckeyes.

Yes, yes I did turn this into a posbang. Not sorry. 

Gobgoblue

February 4th, 2018 at 11:21 AM ^

would be the only one 47 comments in, but the kids kind of had a point? I like Tom Brady, but I think the kids got a fair beef. *shrug* /goodbye, precious mgopoints

Arb lover

February 4th, 2018 at 1:01 PM ^

Not going to neg an honest opinion, but did you even read any of the posts or go to the links i.e. the guy who allegedly started the whole thing and caught an underinflated ball saying he didn't notice anything and nobody interviewed him or asked him about it, or the MIT professor's 15 minute powerpoint and full experiment showing why it was science rather than anything else?

 

WeimyWoodson

February 4th, 2018 at 11:27 AM ^

Is the biggest cry baby.  Has cried to the NFL time after time because he couldn't beat the Pats.  Booooo hooooo the CB's are playing too close, change the defensive rule so Payton can get the ball out....booooooo hooooooooo the ball lost a hairs worth of air because it was cold but clearly that's the reason why they lost so bad.

ESPN showed on their science portion of SC that it was just cold air but they stopped running it once they realized how big of a story it was blowing up into and wanted to keep ratings up.  I think it's the single handed stupidest sports story of at least the past 10 years.

Brady has done more with less than any other player in the history of game.  It's insane how hes done it.  He had one really elite reciever for like two years his whole career and he broke records with him.  If Brady had the cast that Payton had all those years Brady would be looking at WINNING his 8th today at minimum. 

UMgradMSUdad

February 4th, 2018 at 11:31 AM ^

One of the things I began to realize back in grade school was that most of the people who were cocksure on debatable topics were not very bright. In the leadup to Super Bowl VI in 1972, there was a "Dylan" in my class (I don't remember the kid's name).  He would go on and on about how Miami was such a better team than Dallas and would win handily.  He sounded like he knew what he was talking about (probably just parroting his dad, like Dylan most likely is).  I was sucked in.  He was so certain and seemed knowledgeable.

And I watched the Super Bowl, expecting Miami to dominate. 

Dallas won 24-3.

There are a lot of Dylans out there in the world. They're not always wrong, but they really don't have the mental capacity to entertain alternate theories or contend with facts that don't support their conclusions.

UM Fan from Sydney

February 4th, 2018 at 11:37 AM ^

Attaching “gate” to a word that describes what others think is a scandal is the dumbest thing the media has ever created. I will forever hate the “gate” bull shit.

M-Dog

February 4th, 2018 at 11:51 AM ^

My 11 year old daughter said the same thing to me as your 7 year old son.  For the same reason . . . kid at school said something.

I told her they suspended Tom Brady, based on the theory he deflated balls and it helped him win games. 

When he came back from suspension and they made sure there were no deflated balls . . . all he did was win the Super Bowl.

So clearly there was nothing to the charge about deflated balls.  If deflated balls were being used to enable him to win games, how did he win the freaking Super Bowl without them?

Maybe it was much ado about nothing.

 

 

 

Go Blue in MN

February 4th, 2018 at 2:51 PM ^

With that logic, if Barry Bonds could hit a HR without steroids, that proves he didn't take steriods. 

The blinders many on this blog are wearing are somewhat disturbing.  Our players and coaches, present and current, are humans with warts and flaws like the rest of us and like the rest of society. 

The "we can do no wrong" mentality is what leads to cover ups and scandals.  Let's try and be better than that.

Desmondo

February 4th, 2018 at 12:01 PM ^

If you can come to the conclusion that there were two trainers (on of whom was known as “The Deflator”) complaining about Brady’s demands for a lower pressure ball but nobody ever actually tried to deflate footballs, then I don’t know what to say. (Yes, the whole investigation was bunk and science does. Most of the exonerating, but there’s no way they weren’t trying to monkey with the balls)

Saying that Michigan people never cheat or do bad things is how you wind up with a brainwashed lunatic fan base like PSU. Acknowledge faults and flaws and that we aren’t perfect just because we went to Michigan.

chewieblue

February 4th, 2018 at 12:02 PM ^

kids (and adults) stay stupid shit to my kids all the time. I think one of the only good things about living here is that my kids have learned at a young age to to not care too much about dumb shit people say to them. We are a UM loving, Tom Brady supporting family.

KentuckianaWolverine

February 4th, 2018 at 12:07 PM ^

It's funny how everyone just runs with the "cheater" narrative, regarding Tom Brady. I guess is that they are overcome with the need to "hate" on the best in the game. Maybe it's because they can't fathom how someone can legitimately be so much better than the person they feel is the best ever? It's been proven ad nauseam that Tom Brady didn't cheat, but they simply ignore facts, to continue the hate narrative. Heck..... he played better AFTER the NFL started more closely inspecting the balls (Colts game was close, then the NFL looked at the balls, but NE blew them out afterwards, multiple Superbowls, and two MVP type seasons..... one he won). These same haters like to scream Peyton Manning as the best ever.....but conveniently leave out the fact that he was actually caught with using HGH.

bacon

February 4th, 2018 at 12:12 PM ^

The NFL made a big mistake suspending brady and legitimizing the whole deflategate thing. it was an incompetant investigation by an arrogant leader the owners should have fired long ago. The NFL doesn't understand how to market its stars.  

Like him or not, a player going for his 6th super bowl shouldn't have been vilified for something that didn't impact the outcome of a game and probably didn't happen. You should have a bit more respect for the stars in your league, whether they be brady or manning or whoever, because they're the ones doing the feats that you'd like to celebrate as a league. Instead, the league makes their stars as unpopular as they can. 

The NBA celebrates LeBron or Steph Curry. MLB celebrates Trout or Harper. The NHL celebrates Crosby or McDavid. They don't try to take them down. You might not be a fan of those players, but you can respect them as great players who achieve amazing things and the league can promote those things as part of their brand. Can you imagine the NBA suspending LeBron for 25% of the season for something so minor as deflate gate?  Now there's a rift and Brady and the Pats play to spite the NFL commissioner.  What a shame.

cm2010

February 4th, 2018 at 12:14 PM ^

Deflategate is the dumbest and most insignificant "scandal" I have ever seen. It was a makeup call by the NFL for sweeping spygate under the rug, which was legit cheating that helped beat the Rams in the Super Bowl. Without spygate, the Rams very likely win.

Don

February 4th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^

Nearly nine months after the incident, the Boston Herald reported, citing an unnamed source, that the Patriots had also videotaped the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough practice prior to Super Bowl XXXVI in February 2002, an allegation denied by Belichick and later retracted by the Herald.

Meanwhile, Matt Walsh, a Patriots video assistant in 2001 who was fired after the team's 2002 season, told the media the same week that he had information and materials regarding the Patriots' videotaping practices, but demanded an indemnity agreement before speaking with the NFL. The NFL reached a deal with Walsh on April 23, 2008, and arranged a meeting between Goodell and Walsh. Prior to the meeting, Walsh sent eight videotapes, containing opponents' coaches' signals from the 2000 through 2002 seasons, in accordance with the agreement. 

Goodell and Walsh met on May 13, 2008, at which time Walsh told Goodell he and other Patriots employees were present at the Rams' walkthrough to set up video equipment for the game but that there was no tape of the walkthrough made; as a result, Goodell told the media no additional penalties would be brought against the Patriots. Less than 24 hours later, the Herald issued an apology for the article about the alleged walkthrough tape.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_New_England_Patriots_videotaping_con…

MGlobules

February 4th, 2018 at 12:15 PM ^

MY daughter was giving me crap this morning about Brady being a friend of the President. This is a thing that my cousins, Philly dwellers have been talking up apparently. I told her to google Trump Clinton wedding and leave me alone. I am hanging onto my Bradyphilia through thick and thin here. 

cm2010

February 4th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^

MLB signs are done during a game out in the public. If you're able to tell what they mean by looking at them, good for you. The Pats illegally got tape from their opponent's closed practice prior to the Super Bowl. Those two things are not the same.

Hugh

February 4th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^

The comments regarding Brady's children following the documentary about him this week explains why he destroyed his phone. I wouldn't trust the NFL when it comes to releasing leaks to the tabloids. It was good judgment on Brady's part. Giselle is big tabloid news.

borninAnnArbor

February 4th, 2018 at 1:03 PM ^

Indianopolis had 3 of the 4 tested ball underinflated too but you rarly hear about that. Tell him it was a group effort to try and restrain the greatest qb in history out of jealously because they could not do it on the field.

Solecismic

February 4th, 2018 at 1:54 PM ^

The Spygate thing was another load of b.s., though there was a technical violation of the rules. First, the accusations of taping the Rams' walkthrough years earlier were retracted. Most teams did watch and/or tape opposing coaches. This led to sensible coaches understanding that if you're going to send plays in without disguising signals, you should have two coaches signalling, and some system for determining which one is giving the correct signals. In the meantime, before reliable helmet speakers were given to the QB and defensive captain, taping continued. One year, the NFL decided to enforce its rule barring taping from certain places on the sidelines. A memo was sent. Belichick ignored the memo. A genius named Eric Mangini, then the coach of the Jets and out of the game for years now despite being under 50 and a former Belichick coordinator, noticed that his former team was taping from the wrong area and complained to the NFL. The result was the largest penalty ever given a team - including a first-round pick. To say that the Patriots were not punished for Spygate is incorrect. To say that the Patriots broke into a Super Bowl walkthrough and taped the Rams is incorrect. ESPN has apologized for repeating this allegation in the past. To say that the Patriots gained some huge advantage from Spygate taping is incorrect, because other teams taped - the Patriots just ignored the wrong memo. And then we have Deflate-gate, where Goodell played the role of Delores Umbridge and remade science in his own image. I root for the Patriots because I moved to New England right before Brady was drafted and had that incredible run from pick 199 to Super Bowl MVP (I've since returned to Michigan). And, in part, because of all these ridiculous allegations and penalties. I hope Brady makes it six tonight.

Wolverine91

February 4th, 2018 at 2:00 PM ^

That's the media for u. Whether it be politics or sports or whatever, today's children are being brainwashed by the wrong things, sadly.

Mich1993

February 4th, 2018 at 2:07 PM ^

Had the same conversation with my 10 year old who has decided to root against Tom Brady because of some kid at school and to be contrarian with the rest of the house.  My wife tweaks her by randomly shouting, "Greatest of All Time".  

Anyway, my response was, "Either the guy carrying a bag with a bunch of balls to the field stopped in the bathroom for less than 1 minute to use the bathroom or he stopped to amazingly deflate 10+ footballs to exactly the right pressure.  You decide which answer seems more logical."