stabbing in Pennsylvania high school
WTF is wrong with some people?
According to the article, a sophmore who had been a victim of bullying.
I've never understood bullying. I can't understand why kids don't just keep their cruel comments/actions to themselves. Obviously, the bullied shouldn't respond like this, but all around it's just a stupid circle.
Being mean to others to give oneself enjoyment and/or satisfaction?
That happens a lot on here, and this is one of the well-managed boards.
It appears to be a part of human nature, though that doesn't make it right. I'm sure we can all remember times in our younger days where a group was digging on someone and we gained some thrill from joining in. For some, the thrill is in not being the object of derision; for others, perhaps, the being a part of a crowd. And people do often enjoy watching others suffer.
Our culture today has some real issues. This is not the time or place to deal with them. But they are there.
I've seen it happen, and I know it exists. I've just never understood it. It doesn't register in my brain why people would be mean to others for essentially no reason. But oh well.
Bullies are cowards who present an aggressive front to cover up a gooey, weak interior. I suffered from bullying well into high school. I was told repeatedly by authority figures that it would stop if I just ignored the bullies and/or "used my words."
That doesn't work, because that kind of passive, pathetic response just reinforces the power trip the bully craves. You stop a bully by hitting them in the mouth.
Of course, that response isn't always great, either, as this case indicates. The bullied will always eventually snap, and that's why they can't be left to fend for themselves in such an environment.
One contributing factor is that most kids picture themselves as victims and not aggressors. Some of the most vicious bullies I've encountered have been themselves victims of some pretty dreadful treatment. I do think that parents need to take the lead in reigning in the actions of their own children, something that happens far too seldom, but it's not like we're looking at a black-and-white issue.
It's baloney the way schools handle things these days. And this is someone that was in high school only two years ago.
Back in the day you could meet someone that pissed you off in the field behind the school, take care of business, and that was the end of it. Or if you got in a fight during school you maybe got a detention and that was it.
Now the cops have to be called, people taken to court, etc. Plus the whole ''zero tolerence'' BS that means if you were punched in the face and fought back you get in the same amount of trouble.
"Back in the day...and that was the end of it." Oh, if that were only true.
Some of us may remember the TV show the Little Rascals. Much of the story lines were about Butch being a bully.
I would guess there have been bullys forever. Unfortunately, a lot of times the bullys are bigger and stronger than those they pick on.
Now with social media a lot of bullying can be done anonymously. Sad.
Sorry but I have to gramatically bully you. You incorrectly used there and their.
left him in custody of the local authorities. This kid will learn that crime doesn't pay.
The hard way.
I don't understand how you stab 20 people before they either run away, tackle you, or take your knife.
It sounds like he was just walking in the halls and stabbing people randomly and without anyone seeing. He likely just kept walking after each stab.
the dude was tackled by a principal. I imagine it might've been too chaotic for word to spread, especially seeing as it occurred in a period between classes. It's one thing to say "they should've tackled him" and another to be in the heat of the moment and have the courage (or stupidity, or both) to charge at a dude weilding a knife.
I read somewhere earlier today that not all the injuries were due to stabbing. I'm sure in a situation like this, there are bound to be a few people injured due to getting trampled and pushed by others frantically trying to get out of harm's way.
So we can assume that you have been attacked with a knife (and in a video game doesnt count), which is the reason you can understand how one would react? In addition, seeing it acted out on TV or in a movie doesnt count either.
I guess all the victims are just wimps. Its too bad you werent there to save the day.
Don't be a dick. I'm not calling anyone a wimp, I was simply curious as to how a single person can stab so many people before being apprehended or having everyone run away. Such a high victim count for a stabbing is very unusual.
CNN might have at least part of the answer regarding the high number of victims here - LINK
One of the students who was an eyewitness said the following:
"He was very quiet. He just was kind of doing it," Meixner answered. "And he had this, like, look on his face that he was just crazy and he was just running around just stabbing whoever was in his way."
Also in the story, two of the victims went straight to surgery upon arrival at the hospital with wounds to the lower abdomen. It also mentions two people currently in intensive care as well, and six who have already been treated and released.
Very sad, and thoughts go out to all the families as well as the Franklin Regional School District's staff and community.
They already are. Do you know what happens to kids who bring a knife to school?
Of course you are. So am I, sort of. But this doesn't seem to be the sort of event that makes for a productive conversation of these issues, and this is probably (ok, definitely) not the venue for it either.
I'm probably not the best sample you want to draw from... but at my high school, everyone carried knives. I was famous for carrying three. At the end of the year the school awarded me one for hard work. Dead serious.
We also had a shotgun shed and a trap range. Like I said, probably not the best sample, but... eh.
Also a boarding school, I might mention.
So many people I've talked to have said ''When I was in high school we all carried pocket knives and kept our rifle in our truck during school.''
We've created a culture where we tell everyone to be afraid all the time when that shouldn't be the case.
Stuff like this just blows my mind:
http://news.yahoo.com/n-c-high-school-student-arrested-accidentally-lea…
If only every student and teacher at the school we're armed with an AR-15 and grenade launcher, this sort of thing would never happen!
Jus' sayin'
So now instead of stabbings, you have at least one teenage fatality, probably more from stray gunfire. So much better.
Oh boy, here we go.
In actuality there is a good chance that a prepared, armed person could have limited the damage of the offending person. An armed police officer, for example, or a teacher who had taken a training course. The result probably wouldn't have been as bad.
That's not the issue; the issue is whether or not a policy that would place that armed person in that particular situation would be a net plus if applied to all schools. That is very much an uncertain issue. I have some opinions about these issues, and as someone who does some part-time work driving a school bus I actually am closer to some of the issues than others (I picked up a load of kids from a bus that was cleared due to a gun threat a couple of months ago, for example).
But there is no way to have this discussion without it flagrantly violating the policies of the board. Not to mention good taste and intellectual honesty. So why don't we just leave it there?
Why would a gun have helped at all? The kid was stopped when the AP TACKLED him. Would the AP have tackled him better if he had had a gun? Now we don't have the details yet, but you're likely talking about a crowded hallway filled with kids. If that is the case,there is no way anyone is going to be able to discharge a gun in that situation and only hit the intended target. Even possessing a gun, using physical force to overwhelm the kid was probably going to be the right call.
Kinda like how army bases are so safe?
Or how in the chaos of the Giffords shooting, a concealed carrier is on the record as saying if he had pulled the trigger at who he though the shooter was, he would have ended up killing someone innocent?
Ya maybe here where this guy had a knife, you have a point. Not sure how much a difference it would have made in other shootings.
If you're referring to Fort Hood, well, soldiers on base have been banned from being armed while not on actual military exercises for 20 years. So I don't think that really applies.
I don't know what the case is at every military base, so maybe some of the service members on the board can speak to their experiences, but my brother is stationed at Fort Sill, OK, and nobody is allowed to have a weapon on base unless they're on a training exercise.
Then no one would ever do anything wrong ever.
I hope the people who got stabbed will recover, but this post made me think of the WTF moment when playing Civ and Gandhi says, "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"
Careful with that edge, you might cut someone
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This is a sad reflection of our society.