Wave83

May 11th, 2011 at 11:03 AM ^

Unless they have a top notch coach waiting in the wings (I doubt it), I would guess that they would go with an acting head coach from the existing staff and take some time to regroup and search for a permanent coach. 

If OSU gets hit with major sanctions, I don't know who would take that job.

What do the rest of you geniuses think?

BRCE

May 11th, 2011 at 1:26 PM ^

Meyer recently said he is sick of "a lot of the crap going on in college football today." OSU certainly doesn't seem like the place for him at this time.

I don't know how Meyer could take that job in the next year and not look like a tremendous flake. He'd have a hard time overcoming his health concerns in recruiting, as well. At least so soon.

jamiemac

May 11th, 2011 at 11:05 AM ^

I dont think he's coaching in 2011 either

Just the rumblings I am hearing from the connected buckeyes in my life. They've been right before, so we will see.

Erik_in_Dayton

May 11th, 2011 at 11:09 AM ^

 Spielman is not going to say anything like that for the sake of attention and/or to sell a radio show or newspapers.  That doesn't mean he's right, of course, but it's a bad sign for an OSU coach when Spielman is saying that. 

Grahambino

May 11th, 2011 at 11:11 AM ^

That has to be a first. 

 

One thing about the whole situation that I find laughable is how he wrote in a book about John Wooden (put together by the Fellowship of Christian Athletes - members) about how Wooden showed what true integrity was, and how that impacted him in a deep and profound way. 

Sucks to be OSU.  I think Hoke is higher than other coaches who do this, but if you were going to do recruiting using the negative things at other colleges to spurn athletes away now's a good time.

superstringer

May 11th, 2011 at 11:42 AM ^

"...about how Wooden showed what true integrity was..."

That's the lore of the guy, right.  He won all those titles, had that great smile, surely he was the model of integrity.

He also had a "guy" who "hired" all of his ball players for summer jobs or internships or whatever.  And they never showed up for work but collected those paychecks.  No surprise why all those greats went to play at UCLA.  Yes, that was a violation back then too.

So what's this about Wooden's integrity???

Don

May 11th, 2011 at 11:48 AM ^

Dantonio makes a big show out of keeping a Bible on his desk, and he and Tressel present themselves as noble guardians of integrity and ethics.

It's just like politicians and preachers——they louder they assert their family values, the tighter I keep ahold of my wallet and my wife.

MichiganExile

May 11th, 2011 at 12:23 PM ^

to back up that statement or are you just assuming because he won with dominant players like Lew Alcindor and Bill Walton that he was dirty. Don't get me wrong I'm all for libel but at least show me some proof that a man who is almost universally regarded as being a good person, by friend and foe alike, is "mondo dirty."

BRCE

May 11th, 2011 at 1:28 PM ^

I really hope Hoke does not consider himself "above" negative recruiting when it comes to OSU and I sincerely doubt he is.

When you are deep in a hole, anything within the rules that can be done to get out of it is welcome. I would be going full gore at OSU's empire down there if I were him.

 

Elno Lewis

May 11th, 2011 at 11:13 AM ^

anyone with the title of Senator could be corrupt.

 

I am giving up hope on the human race and becoming a lawyer.

Beavis

May 11th, 2011 at 11:17 AM ^

Is OSU the subject of Yahoo Sports! "10" scandal report coming out in late summer?  If their story is slowly being leaked (tat 5, cars, etc.), then I wouldn't be surprised if OSU is the subject.

If it's not OSU... well then, holy hell.

UAUM

May 11th, 2011 at 11:21 AM ^

I've got to respect the guy. 

He actually lives in my neighborhood and while I don't know him, a trusted friend of mine who used to work out with him in the mornings says that he's one of the purest human beings he knows.  Spielman is honest; loyal, but not blind; and his exceptional devotion to his wife through and after her long battle with cancer is really something to learn from.

ssuarez

May 11th, 2011 at 11:25 AM ^

This Rivals article makes it seem like it is ok just because he paid a non-zero value for the car....

 
$13,700 is less than the current value of a 2007 300 C, and he bought it in 2007. The list price for a 300 C today is almost $40,000. How is this ok???

superstringer

May 11th, 2011 at 11:40 AM ^

Buried in that Spielman article is a reference to "solving" the mysterious $0 car purchase.  Turns out it was a $13,700 car purchase.

But look closely:  A 2007 Chrysler 300C was purchased in June 2007 for $13K.

???

Unless it had been in an accident, that's got to be a sweetheart deal, right?  Even assuming the 2007 car was "new" in 2006, it would have been under a year old.  Even if it had been previously purchased, its blue book value would have been way, way north of $13K.  Am I missing something?

Screaming to be a benefit of some kind.  If not... I want that deal on a 2011 model.

elaydin

May 11th, 2011 at 11:52 AM ^

That should be after trade in and any cash down (and price of game tickets).  The dealer could have given him a deal on the trade in, or maybe the car wasn't in great shape.  Unless they find the cancelled check from OSU to the dealer, I don't think the NCAA will be able to do much with this story.

Dispatch also said that Maurice Wells' mom didn't really drive up from Florida to buy a car.

This might end up being very "Free Pressy", though TP's endless loaners does deserve some explanation.

Njia

May 11th, 2011 at 12:11 PM ^

According to Kelly Blue Book, in Columbus, OH, there are currently six listings for a Chrysler 300 (there's no distinguishing the "C" type from any others). Model years are 2005 - 2010. The minimum value of the only '07 model is $15,700. Nice round number, right? And - gee! - what a coincidence, it's exactly $2,000 more than the price paid by young Thaddeus.

Now, allowing for the fact that Mr. Gibson bought the car a year ago, that would only adjust that minimum price upward. So, were I an investigator, I'd be asking a few questions of him:

1. What (if any) vehicle did you trade in? What was it's value at trade-in?

2. What was the final price of the Chrysler before the trade-in?

3. Where is the paperwork that shows the trade-in, other cash down, etc. (in other words, the bill of sale and/or financing paperwork)?

I'd be asking the same of that dealership, too.

elaydin

May 11th, 2011 at 12:37 PM ^

I'm not sure the NCAA cares to go into *that* much detail on the transaction.  I assume they want to make sure that OSU has procedures in place to 1) get notified of car purchases by players, 2) they have the proper paperwork on file and 3) they have some system to check that the purchase prices weren't out of whack with the market.    It seems a bit much to expect any school to independently appraise the newly purchased car as well as the trade in.

Seems like OSU has #1 and #2 in place.  We'll have to see how much work the NCAA expects a school to put into #3 (if the NCAA even looks into the matter at all).

Njia

May 11th, 2011 at 1:26 PM ^

If there are improper benefits being alleged, simply looking at the final sale price won't prove it. The NCAA (or tOSU Compliance Office) will have to go to that level of detail to prove or disprove the allegation. EDIT: Speaking of which..."I think, if we're going to go around killing people, we had better make damn sure of our evidence."