Sorta OT: Conference expansion merry-go-round starts again

Submitted by gopoohgo on May 13th, 2012 at 9:08 AM

FSU Board Member rips the new ACC deal; lowlights include $1 million per school increase; the big increase touted is back-ended.

Also, schools give up Tier3 football rights, but BBall schools (looking at you, Duke and UNC) individually kept their Tier3 Bball rights.

FSU to BigXII chatter commences.  Some say Clemson may come as well?

IF the ACC does asplode (losing FSU and Clemson, with Yes-That-Smoking-Crater-Miami on NCAA life support, VTech is the only consistent football power), does the B1G pick up a piece or two?

UVA would be my top choice...GaTech is too far away and would not 'bring' the Atlanta market, just like Rutgers would not 'bring' the New York market.

Adding UVA with all the PSU/Michigan/Ohio alumns running around the Baltimore/DC/Nova megaburb would capture this market.  Maryland would as well, but not as many people care about the Terps.

ND, as always, is the wild card.  To hell with them, though.



May 13th, 2012 at 12:07 PM ^

it causes the conference to drop the Leaders and Legends names.

i think UVA, GT, UM would be good fits if we had to add....maybe rutgers or syracuse.

I think size and geographically and competitive-wise, ND should look to join the OTHER midwest conference....send them to the MAC.  Maybe navy could join with them and they can keep their rivalry alive.



May 13th, 2012 at 2:47 PM ^

I would be embarassed if we ever diluted our brand name with such weak additions as Virginia, Georgia Tech, Rutgers, or Syracuse (not to mention the fact that UVA and GT would be geographic outliers). 

Notre Dame has sucked for so long that I don't want them anymore. To hell with ND, they're a joke. 


May 13th, 2012 at 1:14 PM ^

I don't even care about notre dame. I just want us 12 to sit here and be calm and just chill for a few decades. FBS football is like a bunch of cliquey girls now. Whenever someone gets hurt or doesn't feel like somethings fair they want to go to the other group that's nicer to them and tell's them that they're special. And frankly, FBS feels less and less stable everytime another team bails


May 13th, 2012 at 4:41 PM ^

The Big Ten is the only conference that has the luxury of doing whatever it wants. And the best thing for us right now is to do absolutely nothing. Nebraska was an excellent addition to the conference, but beyond that, 12 is the ideal number. Nobody gives a shit about Notre Dame anymore. I think the Big Ten should monitor the landscape from atop its pile of money while the rest of these weak leagues bicker over pennies. It's times like this that I genuinely appreciate Jim Delany. 


May 13th, 2012 at 3:47 PM ^

A mega big ten were to happen, I hope to see the logo and names scrapped. Sign an advertisement deal with McDonalds and call it "The Big Mac" (mid American conference, clearly)


May 13th, 2012 at 5:35 PM ^

FSU pisses me off.  The ACC bent over backwards to keep the Florida schools happy after the last round of expansion.  That embarrassing picture of an empty ACCCG is because the ACC put the game in Florida to accommodate the Florida schools.  The ACC extended a middle finger to traditionalists in order to footballize the conference, in no small part in order to keep FSU happy.  The conference was counting, of course, on continued FSU national supremacy.  And how is the conference repaid by Florida State?  Cheating scandals, football mediocrity, and now Texas-esque whining about third-tier media rights.  Fuck them.  I hope they stay, but fuck them.


May 13th, 2012 at 5:53 PM ^

Bringing in UVA would not capture the Baltimore/DC market unless you're going after the lacrosse team which probably has a bigger following than the football team...same with Maryland. Not every DMA can be sold on every sport. 

Having said that, if you're looking to "capture" the Bmore/DC college football market your best bet would be VaTech (just from personal observation). 

Cold War

May 13th, 2012 at 10:39 PM ^

Virginia, Georgia Tech, and Maryland just water down the brand. They're decent fits, but they're not compelling in any way. They don't add a lot in terms of markets or quality of football or basketball. They're just more mouths to feed and screw with us geographically. They make no sense.


May 14th, 2012 at 4:00 AM ^

College football is less about media markets and more about fan bases. The largest-revenue teams in the country are from the Big Ten and SEC, and at least in the SEC's case you aren't going to see many big media markets. People in big cities watch whoever's good; put on LSU-Alabama and people in New York will be watching that. They don't give a damn about Rutgers and UConn.


May 14th, 2012 at 10:24 AM ^

I like us at 12, but if conference realignment is going to happen, here's what I see/would like:

I see FSU and VT going to the Big 12 soon. ACC either stays at 12 or picks up UConn and Louisville to compensate. Big East picks up a few more C-USA teams.

ND finally capitulates and joins the B1G. I think we can steal Missouri from the SEC if this happens; they clearly want to be in the B1G, and accepted an SEC invitation as a backup. They'd fit really well, especially with Nebraska and Illinois. Boost to both football and basketball. I'd be really hesitant to move beyond 14, even for UVA.