Some praise for Aubrey Dawkins (and bounce)

Submitted by Tate on

Praise:

 

Beilein said Aubrey Dawkins can shoot it and is athletic. SaI'd he has some Hardaway ann G-Rob in his game but needs refinement

— Sam Webb (@SamWebb77) August 13, 2014

 

Bounce:

 

I sold Aubrey Dawkins short describing him athletically to be poor man's GR3. Not yoked like GR3, but he has his hops pic.twitter.com/lmka0lrRgk

— Sam Webb (@SamWebb77) August 13, 2014

 

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BloomingtonBlue

August 13th, 2014 at 2:11 PM ^

Is recruiting basketball players that can jump, shoot and are athletic. Phew, I was worried there for a bit.

Avon Barksdale

August 13th, 2014 at 2:24 PM ^

I never thought I'd see the day where I have more anticipation for Michigan basketball than Michigan football. Hopeful that football can get the job done, expecting that basketball will get it done no matter what. Walton, LeVert, Irvin, Chatman, Donnal, Wilson, Doyle, and SPIKE give me a great deal of hope.

CorkyCole

August 13th, 2014 at 2:41 PM ^

You apparently didn't read the Mattison presser. Half joking, I agree that there seems to be a bit more confidence in the basketball team's future productivity due to recent performances, but I can't say that means I am more anticipating basketball season at the moment. I absolutely cannot wait for game day. To add to this, I also am an avid basketball follower - ask the wife. Pumped for this year as well. Really excited to see these freshmen do their thing, including Dawkins.

alum96

August 13th, 2014 at 3:11 PM ^

I think the difference is everyone is confidant that we will get the full ability out of our basketball players individually, even if that ceiling will change year to year.  i.e. when you lose 60% of your shooting, rebounding, assists, whatever to the NBA/graduation - you lower your expectations in terms of potential ceiling but know you will not be cheated.   Further you see a young team and you KNOW the team will be better 2+ months into the season from where it began because you have seen it repeatedly.

Football?  We don't know these things.  We assume some things but we don't have the track record.

In terms of excitement - this will always be a football school.  Always.  If given a choice between having 1 program be great and 1 be mediocre - I imagine 98% of fans would choose football over basketball. Everyone is excited for that opening run under the banner with the band playing and there is no similar moment in basketball.  But after 7 years of being beaten down (save for 2011) you tend to feel like Groundhog day - opening excitement, either beat ND or make it very competitive, generally beat up on bad Big 10 teams simply due to talent mismatch, get some hopes up that "hey this year is different", then watch one deficient unit (defense under RR, offense under BH) torpedo a season once facing above average to very good teams.  Plus a lack of individual improvement from game 2 to game 12. etc.

Hopefully this all changes this year - I don't think most people are expecting championships right now but even when UM basketball loses you see a well oiled machine that is having an off night.  You see obvious things go wrong for a night or two that you know can and WILL be corrected by the staff in short order.  You never question "chemistry" or "leadership" or whatever litany of excuse are rolled out annually for football nowadays.  You don't question that your coach is one of the top 10 in the nation and others look up to him in terms of being a tacticion and motivator.  And you never face teams that you don't feel like you have a chance against - in fact you mock Kenpom or analysts when they say "those young Wolverines will be lucky to stay in this one".

Simple parallel.  The OL and the C position are both complete unknowns with a bunch of guys we have no track record on.  But on one team I am sure that while we will be challenged at that black hole we'll figure it out and the coaching staff will compensate for any deficiency as the year  progresses.  The other team, most of us are dreading the impact that black hole can have on an otherwise interesting team.

Bottom line - the football program does not at this point have a track record of a team nearing its potential based on the players it brings in, while the basketball team not only matches but has been exceeding the potential based on the players it brings in. 

BlueCube

August 14th, 2014 at 10:55 AM ^

Per alum96:

 

I think the difference is everyone is confidant that we will get the full ability out of our basketball players individually, even if that ceiling will change year to year.  i.e. when you lose 60% of your shooting, rebounding, assists, whatever to the NBA/graduation - you lower your expectations in terms of potential ceiling but know you will not be cheated.   Further you see a young team and you KNOW the team will be better 2+ months into the season from where it began because you have seen it repeatedly.

 

Football?  We don't know these things.  We assume some things but we don't have the track record.

In terms of excitement - this will always be a football school.  Always.  If given a choice between having 1 program be great and 1 be mediocre - I imagine 98% of fans would choose football over basketball. Everyone is excited for that opening run under the banner with the band playing and there is no similar moment in basketball.  But after 7 years of being beaten down (save for 2011) you tend to feel like Groundhog day - opening excitement, either beat ND or make it very competitive, generally beat up on bad Big 10 teams simply due to talent mismatch, get some hopes up that "hey this year is different", then watch one deficient unit (defense under RR, offense under BH) torpedo a season once facing above average to very good teams.  Plus a lack of individual improvement from game 2 to game 12. etc.

Hopefully this all changes this year - I don't think most people are expecting championships right now but even when UM basketball loses you see a well oiled machine that is having an off night.  You see obvious things go wrong for a night or two that you know can and WILL be corrected by the staff in short order.  You never question "chemistry" or "leadership" or whatever litany of excuse are rolled out annually for football nowadays.  You don't question that your coach is one of the top 10 in the nation and others look up to him in terms of being a tacticion and motivator.  And you never face teams that you don't feel like you have a chance against - in fact you mock Kenpom or analysts when they say "those young Wolverines will be lucky to stay in this one".

Simple parallel.  The OL and the C position are both complete unknowns with a bunch of guys we have no track record on.  But on one team I am sure that while we will be challenged at that black hole we'll figure it out and the coaching staff will compensate for any deficiency as the year  progresses.  The other team, most of us are dreading the impact that black hole can have on an otherwise interesting team.

Bottom line - the football program does not at this point have a track record of a team nearing its potential based on the players it brings in, while the basketball team not only matches but has been exceeding the potential based on the players it brings in.

Raoul

August 13th, 2014 at 3:27 PM ^

OT but probably not thread-worthy, so I'm putting it here: 247 is out with updated 2016 rankings, and they now have Jon Teske as a 4-star, ranked #105 in the country. He was previously unranked.

rainingmaize

August 13th, 2014 at 11:33 PM ^

Fred Jackson Translation:

Aubrey Dawkins shoots like a better Nik Stauskas, and rebounds like a taller, faster, stronger, bigger, smarter, sexier, better Zack Novak