Snowflakes and Hot Takes - Proposal for the Mods
This proposal is meant with good intentions to improve the readability and participation in the Snowflakes threads:
Problem: I don’t read the Snowflakes threads anymore. I tried for a while. The problem is, for example, I may only be interested in what the board thought of the OL play, but to find anything I have to scan through hundreds of snowflakes on the QB and WRs. And any comments there are on the OL are scattered which makes it difficult to have a meaningful discussion.
Proposal: Break the snowflake threads into position groups: QB, RB, Receivers, OL, DL, LB, DB. It’s more threads, but it greatly incereases the utility of the threads while still eliminating the problem from a year or so ago with too many random threads.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:31 PM ^
So.....more threads?
September 16th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^
It’s this a snowflake for a snowflake thread ?
September 16th, 2018 at 2:22 PM ^
I can't wait for the snowflake thread about the snowflake thread about snowflake threads.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:44 PM ^
Yes let's fill the board with even more uninformed hot takes. Can't miss idea.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:28 PM ^
More threads are better, IMO.
Let the bad threads that no one replies to drop off and the threads that are thread worthy go to the top.
People are going to post their hot takes so why not let them start a thread that no one will reply to instead of muddying the waters of a good thread. They drag down good threads by having to sift through way too many posts to see good conversations.
My HOT TAKE of the day!
September 16th, 2018 at 1:45 PM ^
From squall to blizzard?
Only if there's one for the long snapper, that Cheeseman! I'm really concerned he's underwhelming compared to his ranking!
September 16th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^
Well, the intent of the snowflake threads is to catch most of the hot takes that would otherwise become threads, a great of which are either generic statements / indictments or other statements of opinion that fall below the bar of threadworthy. The exception has always been, and I have stated as much, that if someone has a unit or player-specific analysis which they would like to put forth to the board, they are more than welcome to do so apart from those threads and it will be left alone. The understanding, of course, is that it cannot be a single sentence a la our friend "DISCUSS MAN", for example, but an actual well-formed and fleshed out opinion.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^
There is something, though, to the fact that wading through the post-game snowflake threads eats up a lot of time. I generally parse through the first 50 or so comments before giving up. Maybe I am alone in this.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^
I stopped reading them too. They are too long to be interesting or helpful, although I guess that’s the point of having a catch-all instead of 50 different threads
September 16th, 2018 at 3:30 PM ^
It's especially difficult to read since we are lacking the long promised and overdue "NEW" post indicator, such as we had in 2.0.
September 17th, 2018 at 11:24 AM ^
Sure but that's not new for me. I read some and although there are plenty of smart comments, they get drowned out by trolls but even more frustrating is the 100 replies to one troll or amazingly dumb comment. Sometimes I'm guilty of this myself but I usually just try to downvote and move on.
Don't many message boards have some feature that collapses a comment if it gets too negative? Would be good for clearing up space.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:59 PM ^
Oooo .....I want to call them dandruff threads!
Smaller than snowflakes and way more annoying.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:02 PM ^
I have to say, over time, a couple people have put together some thoughtful threads on a specific unit, but I am beginning to believe there is a good reason that we rarely see an attempt at this that doesn't eventually get deleted or relegated to the already existing snowflake threads.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:41 PM ^
Like Southpaw and me, there are a lot of people that don’t wade through the snowflake/hot take threads anymore. Further, I dont think people know thy can start another Unit thread when the snowflake thread already says you can’t. Finally, even if and when some decides to start a Unit thread, a lot of posters will have already made their point in the snowflake thread and are not going to re-post the same point. So at that point a unit thread is a lost cause.
From an Mgoblog business perspective you will see overal numbers and engagement go up, though modestly as a percent overall.
September 16th, 2018 at 5:26 PM ^
Lol. There's absolutely no reason to think more snowflake threads will lead to more "business," and it's extremely tacky and a bit shady to use that as an argument.
September 16th, 2018 at 7:36 PM ^
Ha! And your expertise is?
September 16th, 2018 at 8:16 PM ^
Discuss Man aka Wolverine Devoted guy.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:47 PM ^
People can't even form a coherent thought as to the whole offense or defense. I doubt they'd do much better trying to talk about the WRs or LBs.
September 16th, 2018 at 1:47 PM ^
I propose one single thread for all of the snowflakes and hawt takes.
Call it “The Bitchin’ Thread.”
September 16th, 2018 at 1:51 PM ^
I hardly even look at the comments anymore. If you want to talk OL you should be able to start a OL thread, but the snarksters will post 100 comments about how what you did was stupid.
The comments should also be ranked by likes and dislikes. Then a reader could easily read the comments the board felt were most informative/entertaining, and filter out trolls. Basic stuff found on most forms, that this forum lacks for some reason.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:02 PM ^
I haven't looked at snowflake threads in two years. They're nothing but whiny bitches bitching about hot shit. The game thread yesterday was very similar - nearly all comments were shit posts telling us that Don Brown sucks and Harbaugh can't coach. I'll pass, thanks...
September 16th, 2018 at 2:09 PM ^
I can’t wait for the snowflakes thread dedicated to the long snapper.
September 16th, 2018 at 2:26 PM ^
So the answer to avoid sifting through the bile of snowflake threads is to create more bile to sift through?
September 16th, 2018 at 2:40 PM ^
After the sad bullshit I read on the board last night, I would like to see it locked. When 25 point victories with horseshit officiating still isn't good enough, what's the point of discussion. The negativity around this whole site is ass.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:20 PM ^
Wait. More snowflakes threads? Have you read the comments in those threads?
I vote for one thread to consolidate all the trash to a single place.
September 16th, 2018 at 3:36 PM ^
I don't read the snowflake threads but it isn't because I don't want to search through them for people's opinions on specific items.
Given that they're (properly imho) sticky for the day or so on the front page message board adding more means nothing else will show up there. I rather enjoy the snark on the afternoon/evening games threads and wouldn't want them to be diminished.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:22 PM ^
I only read the snowflake threads after losses.
September 16th, 2018 at 4:49 PM ^
The mods and proprietors can do whatever they please.
But I will say, I don't go through the snowflake threads very often either. I'd personally much rather have more threads, and I can decide for myself whether I want to go to a particular thread.
I thought snowflakes started because in the old mgoblog version, you couldn't page down the thread titles easily. So it became very important to limit the number of threads. That no longer is the case, so I would much prefer that there be a plethora of threads. Snowflake threads? Not a fan.
September 16th, 2018 at 5:12 PM ^
The problem is that not everyone's thoughts on games are necessarily original or special or really worthy of individual consideration in this sense, but trust me, it makes moderation so much easier. It's about working smart, not working hard, and in the scenario you describe, having to peruse all the postgame bullshit in potentially dozens upon dozens of threads? Well, you'd have to find someone else with a death wish because it wouldn't be me, and they are already shorthanded in the mod department as it is.
September 16th, 2018 at 7:39 PM ^
I see. Understood and agree. The content quality is not worth the effort. Maybe go back to the free form version. Less work for you and any good position group threads will start organically. Or maybe that option is more work for you?
September 16th, 2018 at 11:02 PM ^
Excuse my ignorance but what is a Snowflake post mean..Also what is an OT thread? TIA
September 17th, 2018 at 9:23 AM ^
Ahh yes, more threads so people still drunk from their tailgating can post same insanely negative hot takes. Great idea