The Snowflake Thread: Coaching

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on November 2nd, 2013 at 6:39 PM

This will be this evening's thread to discuss issues with the coaching and any issues you may have with the staff in general. 

Comments

Champ Kind

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:07 PM ^

This is a very bad Michigan team. Every unit has underperformed. There is not one coach on this staff that should be missed if they chose to leave. Looking around the Big Ten, it's easy to see other teams improve from week to week while Michigan seems to regress. This coaching staff does a good job of turning 4 stars into 2 stars, but not much else.

CR7

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:07 PM ^

This lot can't develop player worth a lick. It's not just the 3 head honcho's either. It's Fred, it's Funk, it's Heck, it's Mallory, it's Wellman. None of them have earned their pay this season.

pokoranger

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:07 PM ^

I had a very limited amount of optimism going in to this game after the penn state game....not entirely expecting a win, but would've been happy enough to see the team play with fire and challenge the MSU defense....well, sucks to be wrong, especially after a bye-week.

Mr. Carson

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:07 PM ^

At a minimum, Funk needs to be fired.  I said that he was a bad hire when Hoke brought him on, and he's a bad hire now.  The dude has never had a good OL.  Fire him TONIGHT.

SC Wolverine

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:08 PM ^

I'm actually glad we have to come to East Lansing again next year.  Hoke needs to stare down the gauntlet and provide the will for his team to win these games.  I still believe in Hoke and fully support him.  But this has to be the bottom.  He must hold coaches accountable for their unit's performance.  He must convey the mental toughness to win these games.  Or this is not Michigan.

Bando Calrissian

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:08 PM ^

The only thing I can think right now is what does Michigan Football look like after Brady Hoke? You pull the plug on this guy right now, or after another middling season, what happens? We've now tried it both ways. Hot name outsider? Dumpster fire. Sleeper pick insider? Trash can fire that looks extinguishable.

For those who want Hoke gone, what's the logical next step? What's the alternative that looks better here? He's recruiting extremely well, his players like him, the alums like him, he runs a clean program, but is being hamstrung by his management strategy that gives his assistants free reign to tank the program. So what do we do without being Notre Dame?

State Street

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:47 PM ^

You seemingly often disregard facts.  For your convenience, here are the records for the past 20 years of Vanderbilt football.  Context bro.  It's a thing.

1983 SEC George MacIntyre 0 6 0 .000 2 9 0 .182  
1984 SEC George MacIntyre 2 4 0 .333 5 6 0 .455  
1985 SEC George MacIntyre 1 4 1 .250 3 7 1 .318  
1986 SEC Watson Brown 0 6 0 .000 1 10 0 .091  
1987 SEC Watson Brown 1 5 0 .167 4 7 0 .364  
1988 SEC Watson Brown 2 5 0 .286 3 8 0 .273  
1989 SEC Watson Brown 0 7 0 .000 1 10 0 .091  
1990 SEC Watson Brown 1 6 0 .143 1 10 0 .091  
1991 SEC Gerry DiNardo 3 4 0 .429 5 6 0 .455  
1992 SEC Gerry DiNardo 2 6 0 .250 4 7 0 .364  
1993 SEC Gerry DiNardo 2 6 0 .250 5 6 0 .455  
1994 SEC Gerry DiNardo 2 6 0 .250 5 6 0 .455  
1995 SEC Rod Dowhower 1 7 0 .125 2 9 0 .182  
1996 SEC Rod Dowhower 0 8 0 .000 2 9 0 .182  
1997 SEC Woody Widenhofer 0 8 0 .000 3 8 0 .273  
1998 SEC Woody Widenhofer 1 7 0 .125 2 9 0 .182  
1999 SEC Woody Widenhofer 2 6 0 .250 5 6 0 .455  
2000 SEC Woody Widenhofer 1 7 0 .125 3 8 0 .272  
2001 SEC Woody Widenhofer 0 8 0 .000 2 9 0 .182  
2002 SEC Bobby Johnson 0 8 0 .000 2 10 0 .167  
2003 SEC Bobby Johnson 1 7 0 .125 2 10 0 .167  
2004 SEC Bobby Johnson 1 7 0 .125 2 9 0 .182  
2005 SEC Bobby Johnson 3 5 0 .375 5 6 0 .455  
2006 SEC Bobby Johnson 1 7 0 .125 4 8 0 .333  
2007 SEC Bobby Johnson 2 6 0 .250 5 7 0 .417  
2008 SEC Bobby Johnson 4 4 0 .500 7 6 0 .539 Defeated Boston College 16–14 in Music City Bowl
2009 SEC Bobby Johnson 0 8 0 .000 2 10 0 .167  
2010 SEC Robbie Caldwell 1 7 0 .125 2 10 0 .166
 

 

Sopwith

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:10 PM ^

That's the only guy in the country who has a comparable gulf between recruiting ability (A+) and player development (F).

I love Hoke.  Class guy, likeable, good priorities, outstanding representative of the University of Michigan.  

But he's in over his head right now.  Two weeks to prepare... and we get that.  

Medic

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^

More than any other year I can recall, the board is going full retard after losses and poorly executed wins. Its reaching unreadable status along with boards like mlive and scout, really sad to see.

The team is mediocre with a few good players who are expected to be elite in order to cash in victories. If you couldn't figure THAT out after the first seven games and happened to expect a victory against an MSU defense that clearly delivers, you need to back away from the keyboard for a while.

It's a loss, Sparty will be unbearable for 12 months. Just mentally settle into the idea of MSU fans in full douchebag mode for a while and move on. 6-2, winnable games are still out there. Beat OSU and the season can be salvaged.

As for the coaches, I didn't see anything terrible today from them except Funk's guys of course. I saw what was probably the right game plan go up in smoke because Gardner was getting half a second or less post snap to get rid the ball on most throws.

TheSacko221

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:17 PM ^

See THAT Borges does nothing to combat an aggressive D then you sir are dumb. I am tired if seeing 3-4 receivers running 15+ yard routes. Other teams see it on film and know they can blitz and get to the QB.

Medic

November 2nd, 2013 at 9:13 PM ^

What I'm seeing is Borges struggle against quite possibly the best defense MSU has ever fielded in school history with undoubtably the best DC they've ever had.

I'm willing to give this one a pass. The PSU game? Not so much.

Reader71

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:24 PM ^

The line will be better next season. Its hard to imagine, since we'll be losing two good tackles, but I promise you it will be better. I'm no expert, but I did tell everyone that this line would be worse than last year's version because of youth. Lineman, unless they just can't hack it physically or mentally, just need experience. The interior will be better next season, and Magnuson will have started 6-7 games by then. It will be better, even if Funk is coaching them.

UMiboyBlu

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^

Is this where I post fire...funk? Really all but 1 player in the online 5stars and in the system for 2 years and that's what we get. Too bad Michigan won't react like that because we are 6-2 but our fans should attest to that. Consensus?

mejunglechop

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:27 PM ^

? Schofield and Lewan are both 4 star guys who are 5th year seniors. On the interior line we had 3 third year players (one being a walk on) and 5 2nd year players to choose from for 3 spots plus the true freshmen.

We're 6-2 with the toughest part of our schedule ahead. I understand the frustrations with OL development. Gameplanning, not so much.

buddhafrog

November 2nd, 2013 at 7:12 PM ^

Japanese solution - when leadership has failed, ritual suicide.

Kill oneself with a sword in the gut.

That's what I would have the coaches do.  Line up at midfield and symbolicly, with imaginary swords, gut themselves.  That would be awesome and we'd then talk about something else that was less stressful than the same old snowflakes we've been bitching about all year BUT KNOW FOR A FACT will not change.