Shane Morris-Redshirt or not??
February 8th, 2013 at 7:04 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 7:08 PM ^
OK. Yeah, at this point you can probably retire it (unless you're really into hockey).
February 8th, 2013 at 5:51 PM ^
I'll give you an answer once the team is two weeks into Fall practice.
February 8th, 2013 at 5:52 PM ^
I hope Shane's just holding a clipboard next year. He needs a year to learn the system, work on his accuracy, etc. Bellomy will be in the system for his third year. As of now, I'd rather give Bellomy the nod. I do think he's better than he gets credit for. He was just thrust into a really bad situation unexpectedly this season.
February 8th, 2013 at 5:52 PM ^
Have we all so quickly forgotten what happened when the 2nd best QB on the roster wasn't ready to go at a moment's notice? Allow me to refresh your memories: we lost and also lost our chance at going to the Big Ten Championship game.
Would it be great to redshirt Morris? Absolutely. Do I want to just shelve him for the year and put our whole backup QB hopes on Bellomy? No effin way. I know he's a good kid and obviously tried hard against Neb., but he clearly wasn't ready to play at that level.
Bottom line: if Shane is the 2nd best QB talent-wise on this roster, he has to be ready to go in case of Gardner going down. Sure, hold him out until he's needed. Garbage time can even go to Bellomy if Gardner doesn't get hurt. In case of long term injury or in a tight game I'd go with Morris, assuming he is more talented at this point than Bellomy.
February 8th, 2013 at 6:00 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 11:28 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 5:54 PM ^
all about it last Spring on MGoBlog.
/Flamebait
February 8th, 2013 at 5:55 PM ^
Yes please. I also think that a redshirt year will slow down the hype train, which can't hurt.
February 8th, 2013 at 5:59 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 6:04 PM ^
Build some muscle in that time! Kid needs to bulk up a bit.
February 8th, 2013 at 6:12 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 6:12 PM ^
The coaches will probably plan to redshirt him unless they feel like they have to burn it. That only happens if he's somehow better than Gardner, which is really unlikely, or he's a significant upgrade from Bellomy and Gardner goes down with an injury. Even then, the injury would have to threaten Michigan with a loss, be for an extended period, or be in the Ohio State game with the game on the line. Regardless, he'll definitely travel with the team next season.
There was a period during the OSU game last year when Lewan looked like he might be knocked out of the game. I honestly thought Braden or Magnuson was going in on the next series, and I would have thought it was the right move--even that late in the season.
February 8th, 2013 at 6:12 PM ^
It's going to come down to whether or not he can win the #2 job. If he's our second-best QB, I think he'll play. If not, he redshirts.
February 8th, 2013 at 6:15 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 6:21 PM ^
Doesn't mean he'll play.
He can be the #2 in practice and on the depth chart, but if Gardner is healthy all year and you're just talking mop-up duty...why would you put Morris in?
You don't get "game experience" in mop-up duty...so don't give me that excuse.
February 8th, 2013 at 6:27 PM ^
had to come out of a game during the Big Ten season and Michigan is trailing by say 4 points, who do you want to see take the snap??
February 8th, 2013 at 6:30 PM ^
Are we assuming Shane has never seen a college snap before? Then for sure Bellomy.
February 8th, 2013 at 6:39 PM ^
I would hope that if Gardner had to come out of a meaninful game that Michigan would play the guy who gives them the best chance to win. I think Morris will prove to be that guy.
February 8th, 2013 at 6:55 PM ^
OK, but that's purely an opinion, the last part I mean.
We have no evidence at this point that Shane would give us a better chance to win than Bellomy. In the on-field play that I've seen from each of them, I think Bellomy is the better QB right now, and he would give us the better chance to win. Shane has tools that Bellomy doesn't and certainly has the higher ceiling, but I don't think he'd help us win more this season than Bellomy.
February 8th, 2013 at 7:09 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 7:15 PM ^
You keep ripping on Bellomy, but what evidence is there that Shane would be any better? Bellomy had crazy high school stats, in Texas no less, but when in his first season playing in college, things looked bad for him. Why do we think this wouldn't happen to Shane, without the benefit of a redshirt? Just because he has a big arm?
Bellomy was not ready last year, but this will be a whole year later. DG sure improved a lot in one year. I think Shane will need that year (at least) to get to where Bellomy is at now.
February 8th, 2013 at 10:06 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 6:28 PM ^
This is exactly right. I have a comparison - Kyle Kalis. I bet Kalis was better than either Brzynski or Glasgow by the middle of the Big Ten season last fall, but when garbage time came around, they went in at the guards in his place so he could redshirt. Now, if we had had major injuries on the OL where we needed a back up OG to play a full game, things may have been different.
Like that, I expect Bellomy to take the back-up snaps just like last year unless there is a longer term injury.
February 8th, 2013 at 6:45 PM ^
Yes, RS plz
February 8th, 2013 at 6:48 PM ^
I think of it this way:
Don't you wish Denard could have been redshirted his Freshman year when he clearly wasn't ready to play QB in the B1G? Imagine having him back next year as a HB/WR/QB weapon.
Same thing with Shane, I'd rather have another year of him at his prime than a year of him learning the ropes as a true Freshman. Unless ofcourse Gardner and Bellomy are hit with long term injuries, but thats unlikely to happen because they are not DBs at Michigan.
February 8th, 2013 at 6:57 PM ^
The fact that the entire freshman OL group redshirted despite having almost zero depth on the line suggests that Hoke will reshirt people even if they are as good/slightly better than the backups suggests Morris will get a redshirt
February 8th, 2013 at 6:57 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 6:58 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 7:00 PM ^
So because Bellomy had a bad game, the true freshman must be better? Please elaborate.
February 8th, 2013 at 7:04 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^
You're right - hopefully Shane can tear it up like he did in the UA game or any of his HS games.
Look - I think Shane will be good, I just don't think Shane will be good this year. And I don't think Bellomy is as bad as that one game showed. Tie breaker? Bellomy actually knows the plays.
February 8th, 2013 at 7:17 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 7:49 PM ^
bellomy may have had the worst game for a QB in the history of UM football. i seriously doubt the top 5 QB in this recruiting class would do worse. i would think a talent like morris would perform more like a frosh henne or henson than bellomy.
February 8th, 2013 at 7:51 PM ^
I thought he played well once he settled in, up until he was injured.
February 8th, 2013 at 8:20 PM ^
Shane is not like Henson or Henne. Both of those guys were far more polished than Shane (and much higher ranked recruits, as well). Shane has a very high ceiling, but isn't as close to it yet as either of those guys were. Plus, Henson had Terrell and Walker and Henne had Braylon, Breaston and Avant. That helps the transition as well.
February 8th, 2013 at 7:23 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 7:25 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 7:32 PM ^
1.) Will DG get his RS injury?
2.) If Shane is far superior then Bellomy in summer camp.
If 1.) is No and/or 2.) is yes, then I don't see Shane getting a RS. Though I'm hoping that 1.) will be Yes and 2.) will be a wash in summer camp and Shane gets the RS.
February 8th, 2013 at 8:29 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 8:32 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 8:56 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 9:07 PM ^
if he is better than bellomy, he should play- injury, mop up, whenever he is needed.
i believe we gave up in nebraska because we did not play our 2 best QBs-DR and DG!
February 8th, 2013 at 9:30 PM ^
Ideally, if the coaches thought he was near or better than Devin last year he should be a solid backup
February 9th, 2013 at 12:48 PM ^
February 8th, 2013 at 9:35 PM ^
I believe it is possible that Gardner isn't on our team in 2014 (not llikely, but possible). With that in mind I would prefer that Shane see as much time on the field as possible...
That said, I would imagine we will see Bellamy in the case of an in game injury long before we see Morris.
February 8th, 2013 at 10:16 PM ^