semi OT - what is going to happen to Hash bash?

Submitted by gustave ferbert on November 7th, 2018 at 5:33 PM

The marijuana laws have been reformed.  Will the NORML's cease to be as an organization?  

MaizeMN

November 8th, 2018 at 3:16 AM ^

i remember reviving the Hash Bash in 1984. The Young Republicans were taking over the campus and it had all but disappeared. Me and about 10 dorm mates from Bursley roped ourselves together and spent the day blazing up on the Diag. By the time I graduated in '88, its resurgence was well underway and the YRs campus reign was in decline.

Cool story Bro, right?

DrMantisToboggan

November 7th, 2018 at 5:38 PM ^

Hopefully it will go away forever and the pajama wearing, neck beards from Ypsi will just stay home instead of invading AA for the day.

And before the stoner Nazis come for me, I voted for legalizing recreational marijuana - the hash bash crowd is just horrific.

Oregon Wolverine

November 7th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^

I’m M88, MLaw91 and pro legalization.  During my A2 days HB was a much smaller deal than in recent years — at least as I can tell from the Left Coast in photo coverage of HB.

During my day MJ was not nearly as prominent as today, so the smaller HB was appreciated for the dialogue it fostered by questioning the legitimacy of prohibition.

I’m now several years into Oregon’s legalization (and three teen daughters), and am incredibly surprised to say that the results here are mixed.  

First, disclosure, I use MJ regularly, but not daily.  The quality is outstanding and the cost VERY low.  Negative effects seem to be less than ETOH overall.  

Here’s my experience in Oregon:

1. MJ is everywhere.  Hard to walk down the street and not see dispensaries incessantly and smell use going on EVERYWHERE.  Maybe we got it wrong and made it TOO available.  Taxes are TOO low for sure.

2. There are too many deniers about the harmful effects. Yes, much, much, much less than virtually every other drug out there, but there is a legion of HEAVY users that are checked out of life.  Maybe that’s a good thing, I don’t think it is.  I’m a criminal defense lawyer.  I rarely, even before legalization, saw straight MJ cases except for grows and major importers.  Now I see less, way less.  That’s a good thing. Instead I see clients who are HEAVY users and make bad choices, no jobs, WAY too much screen time, sitting around becoming disfunctional people. Immature.  Socially delayed.  Often sexually disfunctional.  Good thing, I don’t think it is.

3. It’s a lot harder raising kids after legalization.  I shoot straight w/mine, tell them they have choices, and the best choice is to wait until your (mid) 20s when your brain has a reasonable chance of maturing (I didn’t, but there was a lot less pot back then so I was a rare user in HS and only occasional at M).  

4. The science is pot, in an immature brain, does contribute to social deficits and delays maturation.  Many never catch up.  

Science also is that for the rare person who is predisposed to schizophrenia, pot can usher the onset.  That’s straight from a published researcher at a respected university who incidentally I used to occasionally smoke pot with in law school.  It’s rare, but happens. 

I’m still very pro legalization, but not entirely thrilled w/the Oregon experiment.  Frankly, I’m tired of hearing about it on the news and smelling it all day.  

I’d rather just take an occasional pull off my pen, chill.  Pay higher taxes on pot to fund education.

Hope it goes better in M.

DrMantisToboggan

November 8th, 2018 at 10:24 AM ^

2. There are too many deniers about the harmful effects. Yes, much, much, much less than virtually every other drug out there, but there is a legion of HEAVY users that are checked out of life.  Maybe that’s a good thing, I don’t think it is.  I’m a criminal defense lawyer.  I rarely, even before legalization, saw straight MJ cases except for grows and major importers.  Now I see less, way less.  That’s a good thing. Instead I see clients who are HEAVY users and make bad choices, no jobs, WAY too much screen time, sitting around becoming disfunctional people. Immature.  Socially delayed.  Often sexually disfunctional.  Good thing, I don’t think it is.

3. It’s a lot harder raising kids after legalization.  I shoot straight w/mine, tell them they have choices, and the best choice is to wait until your (mid) 20s when your brain has a reasonable chance of maturing (I didn’t, but there was a lot less pot back then so I was a rare user in HS and only occasional at M).  

4. The science is pot, in an immature brain, does contribute to social deficits and delays maturation.  Many never catch up.  

Good post, these are things nobody wants to talk about. I'd go further to say that, while we know for certain some consequences of early and regular use of marijuana, we don't know all the consequences, as prohibition has limited the studies on the health effects relative to legal vices like alcohol and tobacco. Anybody who brings up the very real negative health consequences of weed immediately gets hit with the "but alcohol!!1!"

Yes, I support your right to smoke whatever you want. Yes, if you use it regularly, especially before your brain is done developing, you're going to suffer consequences.

BlueinLansing

November 7th, 2018 at 6:27 PM ^

Our law doesn't address hashish directly, it was written vaguely to include marijuana and marijuana edibles.  The proposal really just laid the groundwork, the actual rules haven't been written.  But in general, you're allowed to grow 12 plants, possess up to 10 ounces on your property, anything over 2.5 must be locked up in your residence.

 

Most of the law was written to corporatize and tax the profits 

 

There's lots of work to be done.