Semi OT: Illinois Legislator wants law to force 2nd Illinois school in The Big10

Submitted by dayooper63 on

Says too many Illinois natives are leaving the state (and paying higher tuition) to go to out of state "Big 10" schools.

 

The two lawmakers said the idea developed due to concerns that some suburban students seem to be leaving Illinois to attend other, high-priced Big Ten institutions out of state.
 
“This is something that has been under the radar but is now getting a much stronger drum beat,” Connelly said. “I’ve got three kids that are college age and we know that there are a lot of kids with 34 ACT scores and high class rank that are rejected by the University of Illinois and wind up going to places like Kansas and Indiana and other states. Michigan has Michigan and Michigan State — two Big Ten public schools — and we thought why not do a feasibility study to see if we could do the same?”
I guess Kansas is now in The Big10?  Plain stupidity. This whole thing is plain stupidity.  Grandstanding at it's best.
 

MGoGrendel

March 24th, 2014 at 6:19 AM ^

I would think that kind of score is a sure thing. Not sure who is getting in ahead of them, but presume "equality" is used to reject the 34 scores. Sad. I did a quick Wikipedia search and found the Northwestern is both in Illinois and in the B1G. Hmmm; they got that second school thing sorted out quickly.

MGoGrendel

March 24th, 2014 at 11:03 AM ^

"The Redbirds" in Bloomington, IL. Nice enough town for a university. They could expand that school to give them a second Big school, but it would take a looooooong time and lots of change to make it a B1G school. Would need a lot of improvements and culture change to put it on par with Illinois (which is a highly rated University).

SituationSoap

March 24th, 2014 at 9:13 AM ^

You're falling victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is to never get involved in a land war in Asia. Slightly less well known is never to go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line. Nearly as well known is this: never expect logic from a politician during a campaign speech.

America

March 23rd, 2014 at 10:21 PM ^

Would like to see the empirical evidence for "we know that there are a lot of kids with 34 ACT scores and high class rank that are rejected by the University of Illinois and wind up going to places like Kansas and Indiana . . ." Lol please.

 

bronxblue

March 23rd, 2014 at 11:28 PM ^

According to the internet (yeah, I know...), the 25/75 split is 26/31, which is in line with what I'd expect.  But whatever, it's a poltical statement intended to get people worried a bunch of smart kids aren't getting a chance in the state, even though they have two elite universities in Chicago and a couple more decent state and liberal arts options throughout.

Mr Miggle

March 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 PM ^

He seems to be saying Illinois needs a second public school with the academics to attract decent students who can't get into UI. In others words, their own MSU.

 

MGlobules

March 24th, 2014 at 8:22 AM ^

for Illinois and its downstate regions. They could get much of the way there by simply raising budgets and growing that school. Don't see the B1G getting into the game of incubating needed university growth, but that could be interesting. 

Engin77

March 23rd, 2014 at 10:28 PM ^

But since Indiana and Michigan are the only two states with two public universities in the Big Ten, it would be less disruptive to limit each state to one public university in the Big Ten, thereby bolstering the prestige of the MAC.

  On the basis of Big Ten seniority, Indiana U and MSU would be joing the MAC.  (:

/s

Space Bat

March 23rd, 2014 at 10:28 PM ^

U of I is already ridiculously expensive for in state students, let alone out of state. As an Illinois State student, there's no way we should ever be in the Big Ten. We don't have the facilities or the academics to compete. 

gwkrlghl

March 23rd, 2014 at 10:32 PM ^

What he's really saying is Illinois needs another good public school that people actually want to go to. That's an Illinois problem and not a Big Ten problem.

BlueMan80

March 23rd, 2014 at 10:34 PM ^

No brains or sense of shame required. This actually seems like quite a slam on Illinois State that has been trying to up its game, but it's got a way to go. Due to the state reducing funding to Univ of IL, they've been bringing in more out of state and international students who pay more for tuition. Illinois was almost 90% in state kids around 2000. I won't even mention the students that would get admitted due to connections to state politicians and other craziness that went on there.

Sac Fly

March 23rd, 2014 at 10:36 PM ^

I don't think many people are getting rejected from U-of-I with that score, considering that a 34 will get you into University of Chicago.