Season grade for Coaches? Season grade for players?

Submitted by Yessir on December 30th, 2018 at 1:20 AM

What overall grade would you give our coaches for 2018 season? 

What overall grade would you give our players for 2018 season? 




December 30th, 2018 at 9:50 AM ^

When does ROI begin to factor in JH's Rating?  ROI would factor in every other area of business or sports, but somehow Michigan doesn't consider it.

If I'm paying a salesman a salary that is top 3 in the country and by the end of his 4th year he still hasn't been anything but the 2nd-3rd best salesman in the Midwest then we have problems.  He was hired to win B10 Championships, beat OSU and get us into the Playoff.  That was why he is paid what he is paid.

His performance has been consistent over 4 years and there are exactly zero key indicators that he has any momentum going in the direction of improvement or that He as a Coach knows what to do to get his team "over the top" and he has expressed.

2018 Harbaugh Rating= "D"...and if same result next year..."F" and should be removed (or if you believe we cant get a better Coach) then renegotiate his salary and pay him what he is worth which is around $4 million a year.  But there is no reason on Earth to pay this man what he is making thus far.



December 30th, 2018 at 1:29 AM ^

Head Coach - B

Offensive Coordinator - D

Defensice Coordinator - B+

QB’s - B 

RB’s - B+

WR - B 

TE - B-

OLine - B

DLine - B+

LB’s - A

Secondary - B+

Overall we were average and underperformed And never made the right adjustments based on game situations when another team punched us in the MOUTH! KInda disappointing 


December 30th, 2018 at 8:51 AM ^

Ok, so what? In his role as OC, Harbaugh gets a D. Fair, in my opinion... Especially if Harbaugh's self assigned duties as OC included designing passing plays and WR routes.

People keep repeating this "Harbaugh is the OC" as if it's some kind of talisman, and I don't understand why. Whether he does or does not function as the OC, the offense wilted against meaningful competition, way underutilized the WRs, and couldn't keep the defense off the field when it mattered. And in either case, pep is a waste of money: either he has no role or impact ("Harbaugh is the OC"), or he sucks.


December 30th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^

Pep doesn’t suck, but he and JH together are not a great match.  Too dogmatic with neither one a creative risk taker.  Jedd was a better match to give the offense a creative play just when it was needed.  Keeping Drevno and letting Jedd go was a mistake.  It will be interesting how the self-scout goes this off season.  


December 30th, 2018 at 1:50 AM ^

The only difference between this year and last year was Shea Patterson’s talent level compared to JOK. 

The Dline regressed. WRs were finally thrown to because of said QB upgrade albeit barely. RB was the same if not worse since Evans is a shell of his former self. TEs got worse. CBs about the same. Safeties LOL. Oline improved but still lacks talent at both tackle positions. 


Harbaugh: C

Brown: B-

Warinner: A 

Harbaugh Jr: B- 

Pep: D+

Mattison: B-

McElwain: ? 

Still feel like I’m taking crazy pills whenever Michigan does something positive involving a QB run, RPO or WR pass and then INEXPLICABLY goes away from it forthe rest of the game. 


December 30th, 2018 at 8:29 AM ^

Regarding the Warinner one, I think if we're breaking down coaching with grades, then he definitely gets an "A" from me as well. Considering where the offensive line was at this point last year and where it is now, there is marked improvement - from "meh on a good day" to "serviceable, but not quite great yet". He did quite a bit of work in one season and it showed. 


December 30th, 2018 at 1:56 AM ^





It was a solid while disappointing season. It definitely exceeded preseason expectations regarding wins and losses, but the blowout loss to Ohio state was terrible. No way we were contending in the playoffs with our obvious lack of depth. 

Hotel Putingrad

December 30th, 2018 at 2:01 AM ^

C- for coaches. Harbaugh and Brown failed. 

The winged helmet should be good for 7-8 wins per year. Coaching gets you the rest.

C+ for players. They did the best they could.


Wolverine Devotee

December 30th, 2018 at 2:04 AM ^

A- for players

Clear improvement everywhere, just stubborn coaching that isn’t adapting defensively and is unimaginative offensively. 

Pep should move on and Jay Harbaugh should go cut his teeth somewhere else.

Michigan Football could learn a lot from their neighbor. John Beilein delegated to a great assistant coach when he knew he was at a disadvantage. Hire an OC and let them do the playcalling. This committee thing of run game and pass game coordinators who have no clear roles isn’t working in the B1G like it did for him out west. 

Jack Hammer

December 30th, 2018 at 2:21 AM ^

Players:  A

Coaches:  C

Overall:  B

B won’t win a B1G title or concern the best teams.  

Whatever is beyond BPONE is where I find myself tonight.  I look into the abyss and feel like falling forward.  

But I won’t.  And neither will any of us.  Tomorrow is the first day of a new year.   Suck it up.


Brian Griese

December 30th, 2018 at 8:32 AM ^

People love to (rightfully) insult the Lions on this board, but I’ve yet to figure out what the difference is between Michigan football 2007 to present and what the Lions were under Caldwell. The only big difference is college football has more tomato cans on the schedule than the NFL does, but neither one got/gets many wins against any of the really good teams they play(ed). It’s the 4th year of Harbaugh, what team(s) would you say were legitimately good that Michigan beat? I’ve got two: 16 PSU and 16 Wisconsin. 2 in 4 years. That’s an F all day. 

carolina blue

December 30th, 2018 at 8:53 AM ^

This is utter horseshit revisionist history. Beating Wisconsin, penn state, and Michigan state we’re absolutely of consequence, especially Michigan state. Even though they weren’t great teams, they were teams of consequences...all three of them. 

The offense wasn’t ready in Notre Dame, the coaches laid a giant egg in Columbus, and we had a defensive game plan for players that weren’t able to execute it. 

carolina blue

December 30th, 2018 at 12:07 PM ^

These are self fulfilling prophecies. If we beat them there is a low likelihood they finish in the top 10. So If we win it’s “yay, you beat a team of medial consequence” if we lose it’s a loss to another top ten team. Sure I’d rather win, but you can’t deny the logic. It’s rather silly. 


January 1st, 2019 at 12:23 PM ^

Wisconsin, Penn State and Michigan State were "no one of consequence" ... sorry this is just a wrong take.  But I get it, we were more like 3-3 against the highest ranked teams on our schedule.  The 3 teams we lost to are all top 10 teams ... we need to win more of those games to get elite status.  We have needs that were addressed in this new recruiting class.  The coaches get it.


December 30th, 2018 at 7:09 AM ^

Harbaugh needs to do some serious soul searching.  

I can’t believe a guy who played QB in the NFL for ten years doesn’t understand tempo when you are down three scores. 

I can’t believe a guy who has coached a team to the Super Bowl waists two time outs, burns 35 seconds and runs the clock down to 18 seconds just to attempt a long field goal.  Try to score the damn ball and at least get better field position.  

I can’t believe anyone ever punts the ball down three scores with 6 minutes in the game   Even from your fucking one yard line.   If you punt in that situation you guarantee defeat.

I can’t believe our defense thought they were playing flag football.