Se'Von Pittman offered
No idea on the specifics except that he was offered. It's behind a paywall. I've heard he is somewhat of an OSU lock but things change (as we all know). With Wormley looking good for us thus far it would be nice to get another elite DE prospect. I don't have a highlight reel so if someone could add one that would be nice.
A question for the recruiting experts on the site, though. I've heard that he is a much better player than Wormley and on par with Washington. Would that be accurate?
February 14th, 2011 at 5:28 PM ^
Also here is his rivals profile
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Se'von-Pittman-…
offers from Alabama, MSU, tOSU, and WVU, and his user voted rating, which I know are just user voted rankings, but through 16 votes he has a ranking of 4.81 so it seems like people must think he is an elite prospect on top of those offers he has.
February 14th, 2011 at 8:07 PM ^
I have not watched any other of his highlights but this short video was not that impressive. Compared to the previous DE's we've offered and watching their films he'd be my last pick. Granted this video is only a minute long so not nearly enough to judge. But I just did not see the relentless motor, a quick first step, strength, or any type of handwork. This is assuming we are recruiting him as a DE
February 14th, 2011 at 5:46 PM ^
There aren't any DEs in Ohio that are necessarily superior to Wormley. He's at the same level as Washington and Pittman and McMullen.
The OSU Rivals writers ranked Wormley as the #3 overall prospect in Ohio, fwiw.
February 14th, 2011 at 7:53 PM ^
The only thing different I see is that McMullen, Washington and Pitmann all list their interest in osu as "high", while Lewis and Wormley is not specified.
February 14th, 2011 at 5:43 PM ^
Not that my opinion counts for anything really, but that definitely wasn't the most impressive highlight reel I've ever seen. He looks good, but I wouldn't make a judgment of "elite" based on that evidence.
February 14th, 2011 at 5:46 PM ^
He just looks bigger than the competition to me.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:06 PM ^
The highlights were very impressive to me. He didn't flash the polish and refinement you'd see from a 5* DE, and I don't think anyone expects that. But he does have tremendous athletic ability for his size. Overall, he's really a player that can be chizzled into an elite pass rushing DE/OLB
February 14th, 2011 at 6:09 PM ^
I guess I can't argue with that. I didn't see him as much being a DE as much as I thought OLB when I saw the video.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:15 PM ^
I do think that the margin between Pittman and someone like Odenigbo is way over-exaggerated. The only difference, IMO, is the extra weight that Pittman has.
February 14th, 2011 at 11:25 PM ^
I agree with you. I'm not that impressed with Pittman. He's definitely a couple rungs below Wormley and McMullen, and he looks like more of an OLB than a DE to me.
February 15th, 2011 at 9:23 AM ^
I was not either, but wasn't this the case with Omameh, too, that few were impressed by film, but the coaches could look past that and see the future body frame filling out. Pittman looks to have a large frame.
February 15th, 2011 at 9:52 AM ^
Yes, but I don't think the question was ever really about Omameh's athleticism. He just wasn't very big. I think he was around 235-240 as a junior, so he didn't get many looks. But by the time he was recruited, he was up around 260 or so. Pittman might fill out more, but I just don't see the athleticism or instincts to be a great football player. He looks kinda meh.
February 15th, 2011 at 5:46 PM ^
Agreed. He showed good instincts on that pick in the beginning. But honestly, I felt the same as you. He seemed to be in on plays, but not always initiating them. Don't get me wrong, I'll take him if he wants to be an OLB, but DE might be a stretch.
February 14th, 2011 at 5:53 PM ^
just offered. He is all Buckeye
February 14th, 2011 at 6:00 PM ^
I think that the top 3 DE's in Ohio are all about the same right now, but Wormley seems to have a higher upside than the others. I think he's just scratching the surface of what he's capable of.
The DE from Centerville (with the complicated name)also has a very high upside, but it might take a long time to get there.
February 14th, 2011 at 10:05 PM ^
Not trying to be a jerk, but what about Wormley makes him have higher upside? Is it that he still has room to grow in his frame or is it that he hasn't had that high a level of coaching?
February 14th, 2011 at 11:34 PM ^
I think Wormley's the best athlete of the three. He's not the biggest guy yet, but if he can keep his speed up and add another 30-40 pounds or so, the sky's the limit.
February 14th, 2011 at 5:59 PM ^
Every Ohio HS football expert seems to have a different opinion on the order of the DEs, though most seem to like Washington the most, and think Pittman might have the best upside. (Duane Long, Bill Greene, etc).
... and they're both going to OSU.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:15 PM ^
reminds me of crable!
I hope we get this kid
February 14th, 2011 at 6:18 PM ^
In an earlier article, he as much as promised that he'd be eventually committing to OSU if he got an offer. Things change, but of all the kids that we call 'OSU locks' this may be the lock-i-est
February 14th, 2011 at 7:52 PM ^
Hey what up Hov ? Holla
February 14th, 2011 at 8:37 PM ^
Holla
February 14th, 2011 at 6:28 PM ^
If we were to get Odenigbo and Wormley I'd be ecstatic. He can afford to redshirt assuming we had Wormley, Black, Roh, Beyer and Rock (may move to DT by then) in 2012, and he's the type of athlete who could end up wreaking serious havoc as a hybrid rush DE/OLB. We also wouldn't have to worry about him academically.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:31 PM ^
..of the DEs we've offerred. I have not yet seen tape on a DE we've offered that I wouldn't be ecstatic about landing. Whether that's Brown, Strobel, Odenigbo, Wormley, Pittman, Washington, or Odjemudia.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:51 PM ^
Do you think Ojemudia has the frame to fill out to DE size? He seems to be built more like a Frank Clark as compared to Odenigbo/Brown/Strobel who all have extremely athletic frames.
February 14th, 2011 at 7:06 PM ^
I don't see why not. Let's look at some of the top DEs in this class.
NY DE Ishaq Williams is 6'5, 225
OH DE Steve Miller is 6'4, 230
MI DE Brennen Beyer is 6'4, 218
GA DE Terrance Smith is 6'3, 212
And Odjemudia is somewhere around 6'3, 220. He's certainly got some growing to do, but a lot of guys do. He's a disruptive 3-tech in HS, so if you're questioning his ability to play on the line, I wouldn't.
You also mention Odenigbo..who's 205, albeit more athletic.
February 14th, 2011 at 11:13 PM ^
I think Ojemudia definitely has the frame to fill out some more. He was listed at 215, but honestly he looks bigger than that to me. I don't think he'll be a monster, but I could definitely see him in the 260 range eventually.
February 14th, 2011 at 9:01 PM ^
On an unrelated note, I'd never noticed your The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me avatar before. Excellent choice, sir, excellent choice.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:31 PM ^
You are my new favorite poster. Thanks for sharing all of the info lately. In reference to Wormley I would say that he is the best DE prospect along with Washington coming out of Ohio this year. I believe Wormley gets the shaft somewhat because Ohio people seem to think he is a lock for us so they downgrade his play. We should be very very very excited about Wormley. He is 2nd to none.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:47 PM ^
I agree about Ohio people downgrading Wormley. Duane Long pulled a huge 180 on him, after he had been having screaming orgasms about his abilities last year.
Wormley is obviously better than Kenny Hayes, and Hayes was a prospect that OSU analysts were gushing over. He's likely going to be a top 40 player overall in this class, and I don't think we can say the same about Pittman.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:50 PM ^
People in Ohio did really turn their views around on this kid...BUT it was at least slightly justified. Not to the point they emphasize, but a little. People put expectations for this kid VERY high this year, and he wasn't as good as expected. Not to say he was bad, still top 3-4 DEs in Ohio, but not AS good as people had thought, at least statistically. Still someone we should be getting very excited about.
February 14th, 2011 at 7:01 PM ^
I'm not really sure I agree about him not living up to expectations. He was on the same line as Hayes, so the two are obviously taking TFL's and sacks away from each other. Wormley is still growing, and easily put on like 25 pounds of muscle last offseason. And he still was obviously superior to a guy who is considered the #68 overall prospect last year.
I'm willing to chalk this one up to 100% pure sour grapes on their part.
February 14th, 2011 at 7:08 PM ^
One of the reasons is that he went from Sophomore-Junior and his production actually dropped...mind you he played with Kenny Hayes in both of those years. I don't mean to portray it as a cause for concern, but I will say that these Ohioans are at least partially justified.
February 14th, 2011 at 8:14 PM ^
http://www.duanelongreport.com/2011-articles/january/worried-about-wormley-not-at-all.html
Duane Long is basically the Ohio "recruiting guru" and he's trying to say that Wormley is virtually indistinguishable from Pittman and some kid named Brian Cox. Just because he had a few fewer sacks than last year doesn't mean he's absolutely fallen off a cliff as a prospect......
February 14th, 2011 at 8:19 PM ^
OSU recruiting-watchers were comparing him to Cameron Heyward at one point.
February 14th, 2011 at 8:29 PM ^
I think that's still a pretty good comparison. He will likely play somewhere between 280-290 in college, but I think Wormley is a slightly better athlete.
We'll just have to see though....projecting what will happen four years from now is an inexact science.
February 14th, 2011 at 8:27 PM ^
I wasn't suggesting he has, and I'm with you, they're totally dumping because he's a Michigan lean. But I'm saying it's at least somewhat justified...
FWIW the old staff recruited Cox a little...but yeah I haven't heard much about him lately.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:58 PM ^
know why the ohio people are bashing him right?Because they know that he is going to pick Michigan.GO BLUE!!!
February 14th, 2011 at 9:52 PM ^
thinks he knows everything, but he is very off base a lot of times. Wormley is a very very good player with loads of potential. I saw him play in person 3 times this past season. He disappears in games way too much. There could be several reasons for that. It would be a good get for michigan. That being said, Ohio State has the pick of the litter in the state with so many great defensive line prospects. I don't think it would hurt to lose him if the state weren't so loaded with others.
February 14th, 2011 at 6:35 PM ^
...Just listened to the interview of Pittman with Bill Greene on Scout. Besides being very impressed with Se'Von, he did make a point of distinguishing the offers from MSU and OSU from Michigan. He said that MSU and OSU were very plain, extending an offer and wishing him luck. His view of Michigan, however, changed with that phone call from Hoke. He's already believing that he could make a serious impact at Michigan. I still think OSU leads, but this is somewhat encouraging.
February 14th, 2011 at 8:33 PM ^
Bill Greene is just playing with your head.
February 14th, 2011 at 9:46 PM ^
all Buckeye, bank on it, as Bill Greene says. Or when NevadaBuck talks, which he has, its a done deal.
February 14th, 2011 at 9:56 PM ^
Cause yor are a stealing bastard. Just let us know. You can't scoop them all.
February 14th, 2011 at 10:37 PM ^
He honestly knows NOTHING about football. It amazes me that anyone listens to his evaluations. I've talked to the guy several times. He's just clueless about everything having to do with football. They'll let anyone become an "expert" these days.
Now that I've said that, here's my "you have no way of knowing if my opinion is valid" statement...
Pittman has huge upside and most importantly plays really hard. That's what we want. Not to mention, Canton McK is a great school to get back into. We haven't had many from there (Garland Rivers for Bo and Gary Grant in hoops), but they have solid D-1 talent year in and year out. The school has produced the likes of Kenny Peterson and Mike Doss in recent years and will always have players.
I live in Canton and have seen Pittman up close. Would be a great "get".
Problem with Mck..... it's a major Buckeye homer school and its huge fan base is 99.9% scarlet and gray. Even their head coach owes his job thanks to a call to the superintendent from the sweater vest himself. These Ohio coaches fall all over themselves to keep Tressel coming back into their schools. Don't discount the pressure these Ohio kids feel from friends and family to go to Columbus, even if it's not the best fit for them. I see it happen all the time down here.
February 15th, 2011 at 12:48 AM ^
Is there any significance to the fact that Scout has him listed as having no interest in Michigan? Is this just because it hasn't been updated?