Sam Webb Podcast 12-7-11: Dunn, Wright, Chesson

Submitted by NateVolk on December 7th, 2011 at 9:16 AM

http://www.wtka.com/pages/9395307.php packed full 12 minutes from this morning. In case you missed it.

Wright and Chesson updates are very positive. Also some interesting insight on Brionte Dunn and where that is at. Plus mention of the tight end from Kyle Kalis' school from a thread already up.

The comparison Sam makes between Chesson and a former Michigan standout is also interesting.

Comments

AC1997

December 7th, 2011 at 9:26 AM ^

This board is quick to bash someone for a bad post, so let me compliment you on a good one.  You gave enough detail to give people the gist of the story but avoiding giving away content from Sam to people who didn't listen.  Well done sir. 

madtadder

December 7th, 2011 at 10:49 AM ^

What problems are you having? This is the method I came up with and it works great:

 

Install Google Listen on your android. Once you have logged in, it should add a "Listen Subscriptions" section to your Google Reader account. So go to Google Reader (www.google.com/reader/) on a computer and click "Subscribe" and enter the url: http://wtka.podhoster.com/rss/3088/ 

This should subscribe you to the podcast mp3's. In Google Listen, its just a matter of navigating to the wtka podcasts under My Subscriptions and playing the podcasts. The one downside is that the podcasts can be named semi weirdly, and they are uploaded in random orders. So when I start listening, I go through the podcasts and starting with track one and going through to the last track I click "add to queue" and this basically creates a playlist. 

Ball Hawk

December 7th, 2011 at 9:37 AM ^

We need Wright so bad! Im so excited I cant wait for MORE defense! I wish we would go after another interior DL. Then I would take a WR and an OL.

jg2112

December 7th, 2011 at 9:45 AM ^

In the 2012 class Pipkins, Strobel, Godin and Wormley could eventually play either the nose or 3 tech. Plus, there are a lot more guys on the current roster for D-line spots than we're probably thinking of. I'm pretty sure the team doesn't need any more.

T4L

December 7th, 2011 at 3:22 PM ^

I would say Pipkens is destined for the nose rather than the 3-tech especially with the company he's keeping. Out of the other 3 you listed, Godin is built closer to a 3-tech, whereas Wormley is close to the 5-tech.

Having seen Strobel in person, he definitely is not built to be a 3 or 1-tech, he still almost has a basketball player build.  With a college weight program he could easily develop nicely into a 5-tech but it would take a pre-Barwis Brandon Graham effort for him to become a 3 or 1 tech.

Ball Hawk

December 7th, 2011 at 9:40 AM ^

Next year we need to grab a big time LB. Immediate playing time wont work for us for recruiting next year. Start handing out offers to these elite defensive players now.

7NK7

December 7th, 2011 at 10:03 AM ^

this upcoming class has a few BIG TIME LBs right? Joe Bolden and James Ross alone are 2 of the highest ranked in the country with every recruiting service. RJS is very highly ranked on most as well and Ringer is even ranked pretty well too.

yeah i agree, i love LBs and any big one we can get is a great plus. but the class coming in is going to be great defensively. Bolden will play from day 1 i think, and Ross will probably get a chance to play a lot too. 

Ball Hawk

December 7th, 2011 at 10:27 AM ^

Yeah I know our 2012 linebackers are awesome. I hope they have the speed to get to their coverage spots. I know that was one of issues this year. As for Dunn, I think we consider him Ohio all the way. We have Fitz and the 2013 class will address the offense a little more. I just hope that the coaches lock wright up.

Magnus

December 7th, 2011 at 1:16 PM ^

I think his speed was an issue against guys like Braxton Miller, and I don't know how many inside linebackers you'll find who can keep up with Braxton Miller.

Regardless, I think Morgan will be a MIKE once Demens graduates and, therefore, his foot speed will be even less of an issue.

D.C. Dave

December 7th, 2011 at 3:51 PM ^

Perhaps lack of speed is an issue, but let's also remember Morgan played as a freshman. Obviously he's not going to make a dramatic improvement in speed, but this kid is a good ballplayer who will get on the field because he's got great instincts and he understands the game. I see him improving in his ability to diagnose plays more quickly, improving on his angles, and -- as the above poster speculates -- eventually moving to the inside. I think he'll play there and play well.

That doesn't mean he'll be out there every play. One of Mattison's stated goals is to have 18-20 players who can rotate and not suffer any dropoff. But I like Morgan. He's a physical player and I would not overreact to how he looked against Braxton Miller in his freshman year.

 

 

Naked Bootlegger

December 7th, 2011 at 12:20 PM ^

Plus Morgan as a true freshman, RS Frosh Antonio Poole, and 1st-year LB-ish types in Beyer, Clark.    (I sure wish Kellen Jones would've worked out in the list, too).   

This year's and next year's class (Ross, RJS, Bolden, Ringer) will give us a nice 2-deep over the next few years.   You obviously don't turn down a stud LB prospect in 2013's class, but I don't think it's a desperate position of need for the '13 class.

85Lee

December 7th, 2011 at 9:52 AM ^

Would be a great pick up, but I think we cannot let it make or break this class.  If we continue to make progress like this on the O-line that should make good runners look great.  Games are won in the trenches and I love some of the big nasties we have got on both sides of the ball in this class.

wolverine1987

December 7th, 2011 at 12:42 PM ^

Don't get me wrong, he has offers from us, ND, Wisconsin and other major schools--but for a guy with high elite grades from a lot of the services, you aren't seeing the Bama's, SC's, LSU's  OK's of the world offering him. Just seems curious given that other players at that position with lower grades have those kind of offers. 

Paccman36

December 7th, 2011 at 10:13 AM ^

 If they don't get Dunn in this class, I can see Hoke pooping gold and making Ty Issac their top priority next years class.

 

Hoke builds it, they will come!! 

michgoblue

December 7th, 2011 at 10:17 AM ^

Without giving away too much of Sam's comments, it is my personal view that Dunn will end up having a great career blocking for Braxton Miller at OSU.  The kid loves OSU like many of us grew up loving Michigan.  Add to that the fact that he does seem to be pretty starry-eyed by Urban (and, as a 17 year old, who wouldn't be - the guy is has 2 NC rings, and is probably one of the hottest coaches in the country).

In the end, this is not a smart choice, if his goal is to play in the NFL, but it may work out for him.  I would think that he would take a look at our insane OL recruiting hall - made up almost entirely of 4-5* giants - and realize that running behind these guys (along with a stud QB like Morris to force safeties to play off the line) for most of his career could land him a possible Heisman, and a likely NFL career.  But, kid is 17 and heart often trumps head for the young.

 

 

96goblue00

December 7th, 2011 at 11:54 AM ^

it is a conflict between the head and the heart. On one hand, he is a BIG OSU fan. He grew up on OSU football. Just like Sam said in his post, can you imagine growing up following Michigan and then being faced with the choice of going to the school that you grew up following or going to your school's arch rival? It would be tough for sure. Sheeeeeeeeeeeet, that would be tough. Not to mention, you have the second coming (at least according to all the media) as your head coach.

Obviously, playing behind a talented behemoth O-line in a pro-style, RB-friendly, system, under a RB coach that put plenty of guys into the NFL, would seem better for one's pro prospects, but if he is as talented as every recruiting guru seems to think, and he develops at the college level, he will get to the NFL regardless where he ends up for college. In addition to Michigan's offense/coaching, I think he is also tempted by Michigan because some of his close friends, and his cousin, are going to end up there. 

Academics and the setting should be another reason. Who the hell would want to spend 4 years in Columbus? Ann Arbor is, hands down, way better. No argument.

michgoblue

December 7th, 2011 at 1:45 PM ^

but that was pre-urban - is seems like since he received his phone call from Urban, he has shifted back to OSU. 

Oh well. I would love to get this kid on the team, as he perfectly fits where our offense will end up, but if he doesn't come here, we will be fine with Fitz, Hayes ans Rawls.  Plus, it allows us to sell an open depth chart to a top 2013 back.  That said, I would really like to get Dunn, both for the fact that he looks to be awesome and to keep him away from OSU.

D.C. Dave

December 7th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^

One thing I wonder about with Hayes is whether he will remain an RB or move to slot receiver. I imagine he'll want to play whatever position gets him on the field the soonest, but it would not surprise me to see him out there as a WR.

ypsituckyboy

December 7th, 2011 at 10:19 AM ^

Help me understand why everyone is drooling over Dunn so much. We have higher rated recruits coming in who aren't getting near the love that Dunn is. I understand that RB is a very important skill position, and that we haven't had a super recruit at RB in a while, but it's not like he's the second coming of Adrian Peterson. Plus, Fitz looked fantastic down the stretch, and seems like he almost has breakaway speed, something that Dunn apparently lacks.

I just don't get it, other than the joy of stealing an OH stud from OSU.

Wolverine0056

December 7th, 2011 at 10:25 AM ^

In my opinion he is a highly rated running back that would be a good compliment to Fitz and even Denard. He is a powerful runner with pretty good size and speed. Fitz showed us his ability to make guys miss and get into the open field, but Dunn would be a guy that would be able to pound the ball and get the tough yards. I would be upset if Dunn sticks with Ohio, but I won't take it to heart as that is part of the game.

STW P. Brabbs

December 7th, 2011 at 12:53 PM ^

From what I can tell, he's pretty much exactly A-Train, but with maybe a touch less top-end speed.  Dunn has great balance and can break tackles, but I wouldn't characterize him as shifty.   In his day, Thomas was actually rated higher as a recruit than Dunn is. 

If you ask me, Dunn looks like a really good recruit, but is a cut or two below surefire hellbeasts like Marcus Lattimore and Trent Richardson.  I'd still love to have him come to Ann Arbor, obviously, but he's not a game-changing type recruit, IME.

Magnus

December 7th, 2011 at 11:16 AM ^

The real reason that Michigan fans are so interested in him is probably that it's a chance to steal a good player from OSU, but I don't think Michigan fans think he'll necessarily be a superstar.  Personally, I think he looks like Anthony Thomas...who was a solid running back but not a legend.  He racked up a lot of career rushing yards, but that was partly because he played consistently over his four years.