Mr Miggle

December 5th, 2017 at 11:39 PM ^

After that experience with Rudock, why would we want to repeat it?

And this isn't really another one. If Patterson wins the job and plays great, is projected to go high in the draft, he'll go to the NFL in a year. If he doesn't, he won't. This is the situation you're afraid of?

What happens if Peters wins the job and plays just as well? With his superior size, he'll probably be projected to go even higher. What keeps him from leaving early? Look at the depth chart he would leave behind if Patterson isn't on the roster. We might need him more in 2019 that we do in 2018.

We should be more afraid of that, or heaven forbid, getting worse QB play. Preferring to be worse off next season at the most critical position in the hope of avoiding a problem further down the line is not something I would ever expect from Harbaugh. Nor would I want it to be. It's a fear driven and passive attitude than runs counter to winning championships.

NJblue2

December 5th, 2017 at 10:46 PM ^

What would be his argument to the NCAA to let him play next year? I thought only the rising seniors at Ole Miss would be immediately eligible. Also I really hope Peters will stick around, I'm still a big, big believer in him.

socalwolverine1

December 5th, 2017 at 10:51 PM ^

What's wrong with Peters or McCaffrey? 

Peters showed he was clearly the best QB in the Spring game. Then, Speight went down in the Purdue game and rather than bringing in Peters, O'Korn was inserted and helped lead the team to victory. That performance apparently cemented his starting status, because the team and fans then suffered through his deer-in-the-headlights performances against Sparty and Penn State. But loyal fans blamed his lack of situational awareness and poise on the offensive line...seriously?

Then when Peters finally got a chance to start, he excelled to the tune of three wins (against crappy teams) and was consistently leading drives against Wisconsin until he got knocked out of the game (yes, the offensive line gets credit for that). But the point remains that he is a damn talented quarterback who deserves the chance to continue to lead the team. Or McCaffrey, who, according to all rave reviews by the insiders, is at least an equally talented and poised next man up. 

So rather than give the guys we recruited the chance they deserve and have earned, we will pass them over for another in the growing list of grad transfers. I absolutely detest this strategy, no matter how great the next grad transfer may be. Forget meritocracy. Forget the concept of the student athlete. We're playing the free agent game now going forward, and I don't like it.

socalwolverine1

December 6th, 2017 at 11:18 AM ^

When Milton and Doyle arrive, we'll arguably have the best composite QB talent we've had since '97. Yes, two of those will be true freshman, but if necessary, a true freshman can play and has played well in many instances in the B1G, including for Michigan. I'm thinking of Chad Henne, and what about Grbac? Didn't he also play well as a true freshman?

Anyway, going back to 1997, imagine if we were doing the grad transfer free agency stuff back then... a middling incoming freshman guy like Tom Brady would never have had a chance.

Jonesy

December 6th, 2017 at 3:59 PM ^

Those true freshman are a high ceiling low floor super developmental prospect and a low ceiling high floor backup. Starting a freshman dropped FSU from #2 to 6-6. Peters was a redshirt freshman and was barely better than O'Korn and 'ole broken Speight. You really want a worse situation to pop up next year?

 

And Peters wasn't exactly lighting it up this year. He never passed for more than 157 yards and at 58% 7.5 yards per attempt. We thought Speight would be better this year and he was worse, far worse. You want to risk getting same or worse Peters next year or a McCafrey who looks like Peters did this year when you can get a guy who's expected to be in the NFL shortly?

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

December 5th, 2017 at 11:46 PM ^

There was no mistake.  Peters didn't do enough to impress the coaches in practice.  

Harbaugh plays young guys all over.  

Peters enrolled early as well.   Peters should be ashamed of himself that he didn't beat out O'Korn and was at one time behind McCaffrey (who was only around for a few months at that time).

 

 

Sopwith

December 5th, 2017 at 11:50 PM ^

they knew with the sieve of an OL in front of the QB, you were throwing whoever is back there to the lions. And that was true. So their thinking was, this is not a B1G winner anyway, let's not get the hell beaten out of our future leader (and risk Devin Gardner-ing him with PTSD) if we don't absolutely have to.

JOK's struggles tipped the balance into "have to" territory.

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

December 5th, 2017 at 11:55 PM ^

I think the coaches thought a little too much of the defense as well.

Don't get me wrong the defense is really good, but it wasn't strong enough at key times.

Offense struggled no doubt, but the defense didn't get the job done in a lot of  MUST HAVE spots when you expected.  

 

uminks

December 6th, 2017 at 12:19 AM ^

It was called the dog house. Harbaugh did not think Peters worked hard before summer camp and JOK was in better shape and knew the playbook better. Tis the reason JOK was the backup. But just like cream rises to the top, talent rises as well and after the MSU game Harbaugh knew he could not have JOK start anymore games.