Sagarin's Out - Michigan 17 (actually 23) - Don't Panic

Submitted by HeismanPose on December 4th, 2011 at 1:24 AM

EDIT- Here's a link:

Sagarin is a little whack this year, but this is part of the BCS formula. I think the important thing we are ranked ahead of Michigan State. This is probably a good thing. The TA&M/Texas/Missouri silliness shouldn't matter - the voters will take care of that. He also has USC ranked, and they're not eligible. 

EDIT 2: As a few people have pointed out, the BCS only uses the ELO_CHESS Sagarin rankings. Those have us at 23rd. Please do not panic. Sagarin is only one of six computer polls used by the BCS. This amounts to 1/18th of the final ranking. 

I have taken down the ranking to avert panic. Remain calm. Repeat: remain calm.



December 4th, 2011 at 2:24 AM ^

My head is about to explode. Not due to the fear of not making a BCS bowl but due to the fact that a billion dollar business cannot come up with a system that manifests at least some common sense. I mean.... fergodsakes!

Mr Miggle

December 4th, 2011 at 6:31 AM ^

I said this in an earlier thread,  The BCS needs to boot Sagarin' out of their computer polls next year. He's just playing around year after year and doesn't seem to care if his algorithm leads to ridiculouis results.

BTW, letting him count margin of victory is probably even worse. His past stupid polls are a big part of the reason the computer polls aren't allowed to.


December 4th, 2011 at 1:27 AM ^

Um....Texas lost....but yet they're ahead of us...what?  Texas A n M?  HUH?  Mizzou?  Wha?!  Is this some kind of joke?  This looks liek rankings from 4 or 5 weeks ago.


December 4th, 2011 at 1:28 AM ^

How does Texas move up 6 after getting blown out by Baylor?  (I'm assuming this is BCS prediction?  I know nothing about what Sagarin is...)


December 4th, 2011 at 1:33 AM ^

a good thing these aren't the  BCS rankings, otherwise I would be extremely pissed right about now. Not sure what criteria Sagarin's uses, but whatever it is, it clearly makes no sense. Don't tell me this is what the BCS computer rankings look like or something.


December 4th, 2011 at 9:32 AM ^

Sagarin's algorithm says Michigan is the 9th best team in the country.  I think that's pretty favorable.  I'm a MIchigan fan, and even I don't think we're the 9th best team in the country.

The problem is the BCS doesn't want to incent teams to run up the score to improve their rankings, so they removed margin of victory from all BCS computer rankings.  So, Sagarin computes a second rating that takes a key component of his algorithm out, it becomes politically correct, and the results are completely wonky.  



December 4th, 2011 at 1:31 AM ^

This feeds a computer average, is all.  That we went UP in this one is a great sign, you'd suspect we'll go up in every other computer and our computer average goes up.

I think the stupid results for A&M and Texas goes like this:  Big XII did very well non-conference.  Thus, the conference as a whole kicks butt.  A team that loses 4-5 games IN the conference is still BETTER than teams from out of the conference.


Stupid toasters.

Wolverine MD

December 4th, 2011 at 1:34 AM ^

Looks like the BCS uses only ELO_CHESS from Sagarin ratings, which would put us at 23. Down one spot from last week. The problem with computers... is that man makes them...


December 4th, 2011 at 2:05 AM ^

We are 9th in his metric that includes margin of victory.

What a joke.

Changing gears: Death to the bcs.   It's better than the old system but how long is this playoff thing going to take? 

Somebody needs to join Dan Wetzel in making it his life mission to get a playoff, any playoff, to happen ASAP

Cornelius Buttcheeks

December 4th, 2011 at 1:35 AM ^

Oklahoma is the #4 team in the country? The 9-3 Oklahoma team that just lost by 5 touchdowns?

Texas A&M is #13? The 6-6 Texas A&M team that just fired its coach?

6-6 Texas A&M is ranked ahead of the Texas team that beat them? The 7-5 Texas team ranked 16th?