Raback Omaba

September 21st, 2012 at 10:25 AM ^

Interesting that Roundtree had roots in Pahokee. RichRod loved himself some rabbit chasers. Another of the few good thiga RichRod left behind, the unlikely bond between Michigan and Pahokee.


September 21st, 2012 at 10:57 AM ^

Needing a tutor for being a little behind in 5th grade, passing through an excellent university and now in grad school while balancing football?  That...doesn't really sound like a learning disability.


September 21st, 2012 at 11:21 AM ^

I thought the same thing. But it's ridiculous how many 8 year old kids get mislabeled as having "ADD," when in reality, them being a little behind their peers just represents 1) a normal variation in intelligence, or 2) not liking schoolwork --these are not learning disabilities. Dyslexia is a learning disability. Mental retardation is a learning disability.


Look at how many college kids have adderall.  Do you actually think they all have Such debilitating ADD that they could not function without it?  The true prevalence of ADHD is 2.5%, but you'd think it's 85% among college kids, because of the absurd overdiagnosis when a kid doesn't get straight A's.


September 21st, 2012 at 11:46 AM ^

Where am I critizing the disability?  What I'm criticizing is the doctors who mislabel children with learning disabilities when there is really nothing wrong with them.    I've seen kids with ACTUAL ADHD, and it is a truly terrible disability.  


I've also had friends smarter than me being given boatloads of ritalin and adderall because they were anxious about passing a test and were having trouble studying for 12 hours at a time.




September 21st, 2012 at 11:45 AM ^

It got more de-railed into a side argument than anything about Roy.  


Maybe they were leaving something out, but I just didn't think that the initial article made his issues in school sound that bad...just a kid who got into some fights and had bad grades when he was 9 years old.  


September 21st, 2012 at 10:00 PM ^

What the hell are you talking about? Who said ADD isn't a learning diability? It was said that ADD is over diagnosed, which is true, and that most people who are diagnosed with ADD do not actually have learning disabilities - BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE ADD! In fact, ADHD was directly called a "terrible disability" - for those who actually have it.I don't know what part of that you misunderstood, but please be more careful about such things in the future.


September 21st, 2012 at 3:43 PM ^

You are absolutely correct!! I am a pharmacist and it is ashamed how many kids are on ADHD medications. Prescribers ought to be ashamed of themselves. We always see a boom in scripts right when school starts or around exam time. I had a parent tell me she put her kid on meds because he asked too many questions! I wanted to smack that lady. How is this any different than an athlete that takes steroids? Our kids have to compete with kids that are all jacked up on medications that help them excel in school. I did eight years at um (bs and doctorate) and never had to take these meds. My buddy started taking them in school and he went from being a c student to an "a" student almost overnight. Any one that went to Michigan know that most classes are graded on a curve, so your grade could actually be affected by someone's drug use. Now there are some kids that legitimately need these medications, but from what I have seen in the pharmacy, 75% of the people get it to help with school. I turn people away all the time. It is a large problem. The we kids get into the workforce and they cannot perform unless they are medicated.. It's a viscous cycle.

Feat of Clay

September 21st, 2012 at 4:09 PM ^

My son had an issue with processing speed; formally diagnosed in 2nd grade (after his teacher thought she saw a problem), met with a learning specialist at his school 2x a week for a couple of years, then she said he didn't need any help anymore.  He still has the issue, he just knows how to deal with it.  

Now, in middle school, he was placed in the math class that does two years of algebra in one year, and earned national commendation for his score on the National Latin Exam.  Which sounds like the disgusting parental brag that it is, but I offer this as evidence that you can have a learning disability and still be able to tackle pretty tough intellectual pursuits.  

The bummer is that some bright kids who have learning disabilities go undiagnosed because they profile academically as being completely on track with their same-age peers.  But who knows what awesome things they could accomplish if their issues were addressed.

Johnny Blood

September 21st, 2012 at 11:08 AM ^

I think there was a story years back where he showed up at Michigan and they noticed he wasn't seeing well, so they sent him to an eye doctor who helped him out and the lights literally went on for him.

In any event, it's good to hear stories about kids that need help actually getting it and turning their lives around. 


September 21st, 2012 at 11:14 AM ^

Actually, both Roundtree and Stonum had bad eye sight. In back-to-back off seasons, they figured out that the reason the WRs couldn't catch passes was because they couldn't see. I remember a lot of people wondering at the time how D-I football players made it on to the team without ever taking some kind of vision test.

Plus, this story was the inspiration for the ol' Wild Thing avatar.

Feat of Clay

September 21st, 2012 at 12:59 PM ^

I have heard of some other players who got their learning issues diagnosed a lot later, like once they got on campus.

That's what really unfortunate about some of the school systems these kids came through. Issues don't get noticed, diagnosed, and addressed early on.  I'll bet some of the coping mechanisms some of these kids came up with are phenomenal.  But it's sad to think how much better they could have done.  Also, really sad how many of them fall completely by the wayside.


September 21st, 2012 at 4:36 PM ^

To me anyway, this is something of an inspiring read. My son has problems with auditory processing that fall under the broader category of learning disabilities and already gets help and has made quite a bit of progress over the past few years. This story shows you how a family, friends, mentors and a school that is willing to do whatever they can to accommodate needs and ensure the success of a student will eventually see that student find their own way and succeed, as Roy Roundtree has, and come to a place such as the University Of Michigan.