Submitted by joeyb on October 31st, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Was anyone else surprised at how slow he looked on that run after he caught the ball? He had at least 5 yards on the defender and he still tracked him down from behind. I have been really rooting for him this year after seeing him in the spring game, but now I see why he is just now making an appearance on the field. I bet that he is beating himself up over not making it to the endzone on that play.



October 31st, 2009 at 10:58 PM ^

But, honestly, I've watched a number of non-UM games and I've yet to see the horse collar called even when it's blatantly obvious. I'm guessing you probably watch more football than I do (judging by you knowledge base I'm sure you've got to watch more than I do) so do you see it called at all because I don't?


October 31st, 2009 at 11:01 PM ^

Correct me if I'm wrong - I heard this from a friend of mine. He was saying that horse collar tackles are only called in the NFL? I've seen a few blatantly obvious recently, so maybe this is true. I've had too much Jack Daniels to verify this on my own...


October 31st, 2009 at 11:10 PM ^

In all honesty in the 2-3 games I watch a week I haven't seen one all season (I haven't had enough to drink yet for that to be absurdly wrong, sadly). I remember seeing one or two last season but that's it - eh well, it only would have gotten us another, what 1 foot since it's half the distance, or maybe that would have been enough...

Aww crap, can't think like that, drink...


October 31st, 2009 at 10:37 PM ^

But he was also laughing on the sideline after the play, kind of like "Damn, I could've had a touchdown, but it will be okay because we'll score anyway". I was with him on that one, until we failed on 4 consecutive downs. It's hard to say what difference that TD would've made though - would we have had as many problems on defense if we would've scored on that possession? I think it's pointless to speculate at this point, but it does make you wonder...


October 31st, 2009 at 10:40 PM ^

I think we would have seen the redshirt freshman quarterback on the next Illinois possesion instead of Juice. But they weren't going to put the kid in the game starting a drive on his own one yard line. So, the game could have been completely different, but I guess we will never know...


October 31st, 2009 at 10:38 PM ^

He needed to keep running away from the DB rather than running straight, had he aimed for the corner he probably would have made it. I also wonder what would have happened had he reached forward w/ the ball and dove.

Never mind, can't think about stuff like that - drink...

West Texas Blue

October 31st, 2009 at 10:39 PM ^

Roundtree was ranked low on recruiting websites due to 2 things:

1) size - he was like 150 lbs when he came to college. Very undersized for a college WR.

2) speed - he has average speed. Good shiftiness that a slot WR needs but no straight line speed that can be used to stretch the field like an outside WR. We've now seen his limitation. He'll be a good one, but Mario Manningham he is not.


November 1st, 2009 at 1:58 AM ^

I was just excited to see a guy get open and be able to run after the catch. I miss the days of receivers getting even the slightest bit of separation from defenders.

Sadly, as soon as I knew that a replay was forthcoming I thought, oh great, we will get stopped 4 times from the one and have IL go 99 yards for a TD. I don't know which is worse - that I thought that, or that I was correct in thinking that.

Why do they always have the perfect angle to provide indisputable evidence that we were six inches away from scoring, but they cannot see that IL had 13 defenders on the field during a key 3rd and 3?


October 31st, 2009 at 11:06 PM ^

It's not like he slowed up. He can only run as fast as he can before someone catches him, and apparently that was a half-yard short of the endzone. In hindsight, yeah, take an angle to the goalline. but in hindsight, crable block the guy rushing the field goal, tyler ecker pitch the ball to breaston, anthony thomas slide to the ground after you got the first down against NW. you could play that game all day


November 1st, 2009 at 7:56 AM ^

yes it was disturbing seeing Roundtree getting caught from way behind. Its not like Deion Sanders caught him, it was some no- name Illinois DB.

The entire game changed on that one play.

Mr. Maize

November 1st, 2009 at 9:22 AM ^

He seemed to be laughing it up on the sidelines like a fool after the play got overturned so I really don't feel bad for him. The kid let up at the end and I would not put him on the field because of it. I've lost any support for him. Harsh? Ya, maybe, but I don't care. Bad enough he gives a subpar effort but then laughs about the call getting overturned. If anyone wants to argue with me, pull out your DVR and take a look.


November 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 AM ^

According to the announcers, the guy that caught Roundtree (Hawthorne) is the second coming of Tim Tebow. They just couldn't stop talking about him. It took a well placed throw of my cell phone through the TV to get them to stop.