Rivals rehash of important transfers (incl. UM)

Submitted by blueheron on June 24th, 2010 at 11:45 AM

In this Rivals article on impact transfers you'll see three former Wolverines (Clemons, McGuffie, and Threet) in the featured list and another one (O'Neill) in the smaller list.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1096994

Which one was the biggest loss?  I think McGuffie is the pick.  I'd prefer him at slot receiver, though.

Who will make the biggest impact at their new school?  Sam, again, I think.

Comments

RockinLoud

June 24th, 2010 at 11:47 AM ^

Just saw this too.  Way to (unintentionally) bring back bad memories Rivals.  At least they didn't portray it in a negative manner for the most part.

MGoHail

June 24th, 2010 at 11:48 AM ^

I think McGuffie may have been too small. Wasn't he having problems with concussions before he transferred?  I'm very curious to see how threet does at ASU. I think he is being put into a good situation there and should do well.

BigBlue02

June 24th, 2010 at 11:53 AM ^

If the spring game is any indicator, Threet just might not be a good QB whichever situation he is put in.  I don't think ASU's defense is THAT amazing.

maizenbluenc

June 24th, 2010 at 12:35 PM ^

Rice Football Roster: Sam McGuffie 6'-0", 200 lbs as a RS Sophomore

Michigan Football Roster: Sam McGuffie 5'-11", 185 lbs as a true Freshman

Michigan Football Roster: Mike Hart 5'-9", 195 lbs as a Junior

Michigan Football Roster: Mike Hart 5'-9", 194 lbs as a true Freshman

Sam was leaner than Mike as a Freshman. Now he is bigger at the same point in time. I think Sam played injured more because he had an young and inexperienced line in a bewildering new system and he did not yet have college level playign weight on him. I also think Sam would have been much better off with a redshirt year under the Barwis plan to get up to that safe fighting weight. (So for that matter would have Tate.)

Bottom line is we had to play Sam (and Tate) before we ordinarilly would have if we had a solid roster of upperclassmen. That coupled with the line play exposed him.

Anyway - like I talk about Notre Dame Tate, there was Notre Dame Sam (my ND homer friends were in awe of him).

It's a strange world where you wish individual ex-Wolverine players success at other schools, but Sam and Steve are two in that book for me. They put it out there for us in less than ideal circumstances, and they left in a gracious way.

Beavis

June 24th, 2010 at 1:03 PM ^

Bottom line is we had to play Sam (and Tate) before we ordinarilly would have if we had a solid roster of upperclassmen.

Yeah, right.

We just graduated Minor and Brown - both of whom were Juniors when McGuffie got his shot. 

I like McGuffie and wish him well, but the reality of the situation was it did not work out at Michigan.  He got clobbered too much, had too many concussions, and felt homesick.  He wasn't leaps and bounds above Minor/Brown.  Why RR went with him as the starter early on in the season, I do not know the answer to (I assume he looked better in practice, where guys weren't allowed to try to separate his head from his body).

BigBlue02

June 24th, 2010 at 1:36 PM ^

Maybe by solid upperclassmen he meant "a solid roster of upperclassmen that didn't injure themselves peeling an orange or combing their hair." I am going to guess McGuffie being named starter had to do with the fact that Minor himself said he slacked off a little his Junior year and also the fact that he couldn't carry or stiff arm with the injured wrist he had. I think Brown was trying to work with an injured groin (or maybe that was last year) also, so to say they were the solid roster of upperclassmen is a bit misleading.  Those two would have made up a solid roster of upperclassmen had they stayed healthy enough to play.

coldnjl

June 24th, 2010 at 2:06 PM ^

That may be listed but he appeared no way near the weight on the field-probably exagerated like most of those numbers are. combine that with his running straight up style, he ran with little power and was pulled down constantly with arm tackles. Good luck, but good riddance

jmblue

June 24th, 2010 at 9:24 PM ^

McGuffie suffered three concussions in 2008.  That's scary.  I'm glad he had the past year off, but even so, he is still probably more likely to be concussed than a player who has never had one.

MGoHail

June 24th, 2010 at 12:00 PM ^

I'm curious what makes you both say Sam would have done well. I just finished watching the 2008 Wisco game and it looks like he just got knocked around like a pinball out there. Plus with the concussions (was it 2?) he got in his freshman year wouldn't have made him fragile going forward? I don't really mean in comparison to the others, I just mean in general.  

OysterMonkey

June 24th, 2010 at 12:14 PM ^

to see what McGuffie could have done if he had someone to, you know, block for him once in a while and stuff.

He probably wouldn't have been a guy to get 20+ carries a game, but I think he could have been productive in the more mature version of the offense I hope we'll see this year.

blueheron

June 24th, 2010 at 12:25 PM ^

I agree that he sometimes looked like a pinball (with low YAC), but I thought he was very good "in space."  Putting him at the slot position would allow him to do his Wes Welker thing.  He seemed to have good hands and receiver skills, too, based on a few longer routes.

blueblueblue

June 24th, 2010 at 12:08 PM ^

I dont see any as a big loss. I dont think McGuffie had the combination of build, durability, and elusiveness to make it in the Big 10. Yeah I know he left for family reasons, but I think he was effectively done before that. 

jtmc33

June 24th, 2010 at 12:08 PM ^

Wait a minute... that article states that Clemons and Threet both left "because the offense wasn't a good fit."

I was told by various media outlets that every transfer was due to a lack of family values and RR not being "a Michigan Man."

Rivals must have it all wrong.

Mr. Robot

June 24th, 2010 at 12:23 PM ^

None of those hurt us that much, I don't think. Threet and McGuffie are the only two key players, and neither left at a time we needed them. Threet was here for the only year duty was ever going to call him at Michigan, and McGuffie, IMHO, was not what he was cracked up to be and if he were still here probably wouldn't have been first string this year or last year.

I mean that as respectfully as possible, of course. I hold Threet in very high regard for toughing it out in 2008 and I do not blame him at all for heading for somewhere with a better shot at success (and playing time). McGuffie was homesick and couldn't avoid concussions every other week while here, so I can't blame him at all for transfering closer to home and in a league where he was less likely to take beating that was getting to him here. I'll never forget the sandwhich he got returning a kick against MSU. I was near the top row and I could hear that over everyone yelling. Probably the only time I ever excused someone for fumbling, and hopefully the last.

markusr2007

June 24th, 2010 at 12:25 PM ^

between getting concussed while playing for Michigan or concussed while playing for the Rice Owls.

There's a troubling tendency here. Hopefully Sam has a great, safe year.

Search4Meaning

June 24th, 2010 at 12:49 PM ^

I don't much care about transfers out of our program.

That being said, I wish none of them anything but the best - except for Justin Boren (and that has more to do with the way he left, even more than where he went.)

Just hope the MGoKarma shows up at his doorstep soon...

CincyBlue

June 24th, 2010 at 3:03 PM ^

Should really consider quitting football altogether, 3 concussions in one year is serious.  If he gets another this year, he should seriously consider hanging up his cleats.  I also understand that a 19-20 year old kid doesn't understand that. So hopefully,  the year off helped his brain heal and I wish him the best at Rice.