Rivals predicting Garnett to Stanford--Tim thinks UM

Submitted by meechiganroses on January 23rd, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Per Tim Sullivan's twitter. Though he thinks UM is in good shape.  Interesting to say the least...


Tim Sullivan
@TimS_WolverineTim Sullivan
Most think Josh Garnett to Stanford. RT @rivalsdotcom: Analysts predict undecided Rivals100 prospects. bit.ly/x76Nsy #RivalsNSD
His response to another user:
Tim Sullivan
@TimS_WolverineTim Sullivan
@TimEmmitt They're mostly just gut feelings. I think M is in good position.



January 23rd, 2012 at 2:36 PM ^

The people who were happy Caleb decommitted were off-base, but I don't think these predictions mean anything either.  We all have paid just as much, if not more attention to the situation as them, and I don't believe they have any information we don't.  Garnett has been very quiet about where he will be going, but all the reports coming from here recently have been positive for UM.  Unless Garnett has been saying similar things about Stanford as well, I think we are in better shape.  Plus there was that cryptic Pipkins tweet the other day, which could have been referring only to Diamond or Garnett. 


January 23rd, 2012 at 2:40 PM ^

I will still disappointed about Stacey because he was the only one slotted to play center.  If the first 3 snaps of our bowl game are any indication, it's a pretty important position to have depth at.  I think a lot of the people happy about Casey were anticipating us getting 2/3 of Garnett, Kozan and Jordan Diamond.  Still possible, but won't be easy. 


January 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 PM ^

I think he's likely going to Stanford just because virtually everything positive about UM's chances is coming from Garnett himself.  


January 23rd, 2012 at 2:32 PM ^

Recruiting updates from pay-sites = reliable information

Recruiting "predictions" like these = gut feelings based off of hardly any more information than you have

In other words, this changes nothing. Knowing what we know, I think we're still in good shape.


January 23rd, 2012 at 2:36 PM ^

I don't think half of these "experts" have even been reading up on the Garnett situation recently. All besides Helmholdt, probably couldn't even tell you that Hoke was in Garnett's house last night.


January 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 PM ^

Helmholdt is admittedly not close to the situation, he went with what their west coast recruiting guy said (link).  Considering that he didn't post anything about Garnett's in-home last night, and hasn't posted anything in at least five or six days, I'm going to go ahead and say he may not be that close to Garnett.


January 23rd, 2012 at 3:44 PM ^

Additionally, Gorney talks about Garnett and Stanford here at around 4:00 minutes in (link).  He goes out of his way to praise Stanford and why Garnett is going to choose them (Garnett wants to be a doctor, smart, etc.), but not a word about Michigan as an academic power.  Think we've found out why Gorney thinks the way he does.

Also, stick around for some Gorney salivating about how great Tosh Lupoi is, as well as that day's news of an OSU (ntOSU) assistant leaving for Washington.  Lulz.


January 23rd, 2012 at 2:41 PM ^

Nobody just has gut feelings.  There must be some evidence for them saying that.

I recognize that I don't get my news from the most unbiased of sources, sol what out there would cause one to think he is leaning towards Stanford?  Everything I have heard out of Garnett himself implies Michigan is the leader.


January 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 PM ^

if had to make a bet for money, or it was my job to be right most of the time.   I think he's still thinking.  He's a smart kid. Either way, he's going to have a great career/life. 

Yost Ghost

January 23rd, 2012 at 3:10 PM ^

Maybe so but knowing that Josh is a pretty bright guy and that both schools have top level med programs it comes down to one more key factor. One football program has a long history of being good and is rising again whereas the other program has a history of being medicore and it's uncertain where they'll be heading once Luck is gone. Sure there's the distance thing but I think that issues is more than negated with the Magnuson connection.


January 23rd, 2012 at 2:45 PM ^

So Tim, who has focused on M recruiting specifically for years, thinks Garnett will be blue, and everyone else (except one other guy on there I saw) think Stanford, and they're mostly just gut feelings? Yeah, I'm not worried.


January 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 PM ^

is that everyone else isn't getting information from a Michigan perspective.  Guess we'll have to wait and see until Thursday.  


January 23rd, 2012 at 3:22 PM ^

This is a good point. It is one thing for Garnett to be sugar coating our chances, but it is another thing if our perspective on our chances come only from Michigan sources, which are somewhat biased (and justifiablely so since Michigan is awesome; that's my bias). We shall see.


January 23rd, 2012 at 2:51 PM ^

Stanford may have a (very) slight advantage over us when it comes to academic ranking in The Times Higher Ed World Rankings, QS World Uni Rankings, and the last (and least) U.S. News, but academically, we are no pushover. I think he knows that Michigan has a stellar academic reputation but also has a very deep/rich tradition and is a big stepping stone to the NFL. Not to mention that, with the departure of Luck and Harbaugh, the Stanford program is a big question mark, whereas we seem to be on the rise. Also, it seems that Josh has developed a really good rapport with the Michigan coaches (I have not really heard much about his relationship with the Standford staff), which is pretty important, and is very close with several current commits. I have heard nothing but praise and positive things from Josh when it comes to Michigan. As for Stanford, I have not heard Josh make too many statement about them. I guess the other advantage Stanford has is that it is close to home, if that is something that is important for Josh. I am not sure if the Rivals analysts have some insider info but most of the public info, on the contrary, seems to be pointing to Michigan. 

Mr. Rager

January 23rd, 2012 at 2:53 PM ^

I am not concerned by any of this.  Why?

- Helmholdt is the Midwest guy.  Has no insight on Garnett.

- Their West coast guy is probably going to think he'd chose the (recently) better Stanford program, which is closer to home.

- Tim Sullivan and Tom VanHaren think he's going blue (60/40 ish but still..)

Unless Garnett has been messing with what he's saying to Tim and Tom recently, I think they've got this stuff wrong.

Steve Lorenz

January 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 PM ^

I have had two conversations with Josh. Neither can or could be misconstrued like the Reeves conversation. Take what you would from what he told me, but I would think he likes Michigan more based on what he himself said. 

Steve Lorenz

January 23rd, 2012 at 3:11 PM ^

Text, the first of which was transcribed exactly as written. This evening I will edit my conversation with him to have the exact transcription. Hard to believe he's favoring Stanford if what he says to me is true. 


January 23rd, 2012 at 3:00 PM ^

the premium sites do many things to get people to pay for insider (the hilariously leading "HAS SO AND SO NAMED A LEADER?" headlines where the answer is "no" are the classic example), but I don't see how publicly-available predictions count as that.  Scout's west coast guy thinks he goes to Stanford too.  Obviously I hope everyone is wrong, but a number of people seem to be getting the same impression.  


January 23rd, 2012 at 3:06 PM ^

But Sam Webb says this morning, that Scout's west coast guy is far less confident than he used to be about it. Sam said that it was the west coast guy said it was like 51-49 now, and that was before Coach Hoke's visit. FWIW, Sam seemed to be quietly confident that Garnett would pick Michigan.


January 23rd, 2012 at 3:05 PM ^

i'd pick UM, but stanford is much better academically and are vacting to spots on their offensive line for underclassman who are projected to be top 15 draft picks.  there are plenty of reasons to pick um over stanford, but in terms of recent success of olinemen and academics--two important factors--stanford is the easy choice.  


January 23rd, 2012 at 3:12 PM ^

Is this some sort of super-sophisticated recruiting lingo?

As far as recent success goes, the primary architect of Stanford's resurgence just missed out on a Super Bowl appearance in his first NFL season. Considering the mind-boggling brain fart that current Stanford HC David Shaw had in the final critical moments of the Fiesta Bowl, I wouldn't be hugely confident in his coaching prowess.