Rivals on D. Hart

Submitted by blueheron on November 17th, 2010 at 6:56 AM

Demetrius Hart is mentioned favorably a total of three times across these two articles:

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1153697

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1152732

SIYAS (Sorry if you've already seen ... I thought these merited a post.)

h/t to Haxel Rose for alerting me to an incorrect second link (now fixed).

Comments

His Dudeness

November 17th, 2010 at 8:05 AM ^

He will get his 5 star without question. There are still 10-20 spots to get to a "normal" amount of 5 stars. Of course a lot can change between now and Feb. regardless, but he should be well in the middle of 5 star territory by then.

His Dudeness

November 17th, 2010 at 8:46 AM ^

I hear you. Recruits do look at recruiting sites though and it would boost our class. It would make us look like more of an up and comer (even though traditionally freshman shouldn't help out too much for at least two years... traditionally...), but it couldn't hurt us to grab a 5 star.

StephenRKass

November 17th, 2010 at 8:46 AM ^

+12u

He will be very good, regardless of star count.

We have had way too many 4 - 5 stars flame out, transfer out, or not get in (Boren, Mallett, Turner, Vlad, O'Neill, Witty, Demar, et. al.) I have more confidence in Hart. 

pee on freep

November 17th, 2010 at 8:49 AM ^

that is a great image for the star-rating overhype-aganza.  i was just reading that book to my two boys the other night.  i would +1'ya but the mods took away my voting privleges because I started a forum topic that was negative toward osu.  anyways, +1 to you in spirit...

wolverine1987

November 17th, 2010 at 9:37 AM ^

as saying the top recruiting sites do a "good job" ranking players (though that is never the deciding factor, as it should not be). And every available data point shows that star rankings are a good indicator of future success within an inexact science (think of the #1 Draft picks that have flamed out, that doesn't invalidate NFL scouting grades). Data and even comments from coaches show that star rankings do in fact matter, and that it is the people that dismiss them, not the ones that buy into them (with caveats), that are wrong.

AnthonyThomas

November 17th, 2010 at 10:13 AM ^

I think the point is that the star rating is no guarantee. The learning curve and growth spurt that some of these guys end up going through is insane, compared to how they were rated as high schoolers. Sam Bradford was a three star recruit and now he's putting up better numbers than any rookie QB in recent memory. At the same time, Chad Henne was a five star QB out of high school. It's obvious which one had a better college career.

That being said, the fifth star is a source of pride and it does make us more attractive to other recruits.

steviebrownfor…

November 17th, 2010 at 11:36 AM ^

I have not seen one person on this board even come close to saying that star ratings don't matter at all.  I believe the consensus is that fans tend to fly off the handle if a commit is not a 4 star / 5 star.  Obviously we want the highest rated class - but their is something to be said to for players that fit the system, are 'project' players, or are late-bloomers.

The best counter-argument is not the individual examples of Oh Emm Gee Mike Hart/Pat White... the best counter-argument are team-based examples, i.e.: Iowa's or TCU's Defense - who consistently lead the country on their side of the ball with oodles of 3 stars, and Boise State's or Oklahoma State's Offense - who does the same on offense with the oodles and the 3 stars.

pee on freep

November 17th, 2010 at 11:24 AM ^

thank you, thank you for negging me.  neg me more please.  i'm not going for a flame-out here, i just love getting negged.  feels good.

and chunkums i didn't even write about my points, i don't care about points, i just wanted to give a +1 to someone, but couldn't, so I wrote in favor to them, liked their post.  you may be more overly-sensitive than my wife.  chill out and go back to M Football...

Hoke_Floats

November 17th, 2010 at 8:27 AM ^

Is it explained somewhere?

If it is a really bad year for talent will the best RB automatically get a 5 star, even if he is only a 4 star by the previous years talent?

DGDestroys

November 17th, 2010 at 9:56 AM ^

Because they give out 50 5-stars, but not on Rivals. Players have to really earn the fifth star. However, most years their number swells up to around 20-25, and he's number 16 right now, so barring an unexpected plunge in the rankings, he'll probably get a fifth star.

mGrowOld

November 17th, 2010 at 8:48 AM ^

The mind reels at the quotes Fred Jackson is preparing to describe 5 Star Dee Hart's game. He was working overtime to come up with adequate comparisons when he thought he was getting a 4 Star.

DGDestroys

November 17th, 2010 at 9:54 AM ^

He's listed as an 'athlete' to Rivals and an OLB to Scout. Although he wants to (and FSU is giving him the opportunity to) play RB at FSU, if he wants to realize his full potential he'll be back at OLB by the end of his career

feetandfootball85

November 17th, 2010 at 9:53 AM ^

Whether or not Dee gets his fifth star shouldn't matter. Michigan has obviously developed some offensive talent into a cohesive unit and a quite effective one at that. I assume Dee, with his skill set and attitude, will flourish in Rich Rod's scheme.

Besides, Texas has tons of five star recruits and Mack is sure having issues making them function as a team.

El Jeffe

November 17th, 2010 at 12:05 PM ^

I hope Dee (1) knows already or learns how to block; and (2) doesn't fumble. If so, he will be Vinnie Smith * 1.5, which is what we all hoped Vinnie would be but isn't because of his bad wheel and maybe some other stuff.

But have you noticed how insanely open Vinnie usually is on that flare route he runs from the backfield? Now imagine Dee's shiftiness in that situation. Yes, please.