Risks for Football Season Ticket holders for selling their tickets??

Submitted by IUandUofM on March 27th, 2010 at 12:29 PM

I am a recent season ticket holder and have never sold tickets to a game before. However, in 2010 there may be a game or two we can not attend. I know there is a market for the tickets, and would not be hard to find a buyer, but what I am worried about is the risks associated with selling them:

- can my season ticket rights be revoked? If I posted them can't UofM folks track me down by the seat number and know I sold them and get heat for that?

- is it illegal to sell them outside the stadium if I can't get someone to use one of my extra seats? I know they are sold, but don't know the rules.

Comments

Geaux_Blue

March 27th, 2010 at 12:33 PM ^

sell them at cost. legal outside the stadium and everywhere in the world.
rewards a solid UM fan and not a broker who then flips the sale.
case closed.

section44

March 27th, 2010 at 2:46 PM ^

"This ticket shall not be sold above face value OR sold on University premises......Michigan is the only authorized seller of tickets to this game.........

remember that come MSU game this year and OSU game next year...

Mirasola

March 27th, 2010 at 12:33 PM ^

There should be no problem; I know plenty of people who've sold a couple of their season tickets because they could not attend. I also bought a couple complete sets a couple years ago from long time ticket holders. Now if you're trying to make a huge profit, that's another story.

Pea-Tear Gryphon

March 27th, 2010 at 12:39 PM ^

I would make sure to try and sell them to UM fans if at all possible. If there are regulars that sit around you and they see you've sold to the enemy, you could get a cold reception for the next game you attend.

It's a bummer you can't make the games, but as long as you sell them for face value there's nothing that could get you into trouble with the law dogs.

Mirasola

March 27th, 2010 at 12:49 PM ^

I really don't see why they would care. It's unrealistic to think that a season ticket holder will be able to go to every single game all the time.

I remember seeing a thread during the season about donating your tickets to a local organization so that kids can go see the game? This is another option, and I believe they were saying the ticket value is tax deductible. I tried searching for the thread but had no luck...hope I'm not talking out of my ass.

Pea-Tear Gryphon

March 27th, 2010 at 12:50 PM ^

I could be wrong (ask my wife...er don't), but the AD's already made their money from you for the purchase of the tickets. I don't think they care too much if you turn around and sell them. They discourage scalping (sorry PC people), but they cannot control what people do with their tickets once they've purchased them.

They cracked down on students selling their tickets, but that was because student tickets were cheaper and they wanted to sell the regular priced tickets to the regular people.

Ladies and gentlemen of the mgoblog, I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and was later thawed by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuses me! But in this case, I think you're all good. Just don't sell 'em to a sparty!

Geaux_Blue

March 27th, 2010 at 3:14 PM ^

is fine. they're getting your season ticket "tithe." there's no relevant concern if you're handing it off. it's why your season tickets aren't engraved with your name and require ID. if you had gotten some bonus sale they might care but it's generally understood not every season ticket holder is going to be able to go. the university has no ability to know, nor cares enough to pursue, if you know the person using your ticket. i wouldn't sell it to the drunkest asshole you can find in concern that they pursue whose ticket it actually is but reselling at or below ticket value is legal.

Fresh Meat

March 27th, 2010 at 12:50 PM ^

Look, the safest way to avoid any problems is just to mail them to me free of charge. That way you don't have to worry about non-Michigan fans getting them or about selling them above cost. It will be completely harmless. It's really the only truly safe option, like abstinence.

Oh, and you are welcome.

IUandUofM

March 27th, 2010 at 12:58 PM ^

SCALPING: Scalping (selling a ticket above face value) violates University policy and Michigan law.

Attempting to sell or solicit the sale of a ticket (even at face value) on campus without a permit also violates University policy.

Therefore, a violation of these University policies or this Michigan law may result in your ineligibility to purchase ice hockey season tickets in the future even if criminal charges are not filed against you.

The Athletic Department reserves the right to declare you ineligible to order ice hockey tickets if it receives sufficient evidence that an ice hockey ticket assigned to you was sold or was offered for sale at greater than the face value of the ticket.

IUandUofM

March 27th, 2010 at 1:02 PM ^

http://www.mgoblue.com/tickets/ticket-policies-forms.html

Admittance: Each person is required to have a ticket for entry regardless of age to all events requiring an admission charge.

Scalping: Scalping (selling a ticket above face value) violates University policy and Michigan law. Attempting to sell or solicit the sale of a ticket(s) (even at face value) on campus without a permit also violates University policy. Therefore, a violation of these University policies or this Michigan law may result in your ineligibility to purchase season tickets in the future even if criminal charges are not filed against you. The Athletic Department reserves the right to cancel any existing season or single-game ticket orders and declare you ineligible to order future tickets if we receive sufficient evidence that a ticket assigned to you was sold or offered for resale for greater than the face value of the ticket.

Counterfeit Tickets: Only tickets purchased directly from the Michigan Ticket Office are guaranteed to be valid. Persons admitted to the stadium with counterfeit tickets will be removed from the stadium.

Transfer of Tickets: The purchase of season tickets is not a property right but rather a privilege that is assigned annually to you by the Michigan Athletic Department. Season ticket holder privileges may only be transferred to a spouse of a season ticket holder, or to the surviving spouse in the event of death. Such privileges cannot be transferred to children of a season ticket holder.

Change of Name: Due to the above transfer policy, only a spouse's name can be added to your account. To do so, please send us a written request signed by you and a copy of your marriage certificate. To remove a spouse's name, please send us a notarized written request signed by both of you or a certified copy of your divorce papers.

Change of Address: Address changes should be done online at mgoblue.com/tickets. This can be done by signing in to use your account and using the "My Account" option. Otherwise, print out the Change of Address Form, fill it out, and either fax or mail the completed form along with a legible copy of your current driver's license or state ID that includes a signature, to the ticket office. Please note that tickets cannot be forwarded and will be returned to the Ticket Office. The deadline for change of address forms for football season ticket holders is the June 1 prior to the upcoming season. If you have any questions call the Ticket Office at 866/296-6849.

bcsblue

March 27th, 2010 at 1:55 PM ^

If you can't sell them to someone you know face to face you can sell it online. The easiest way to do this and not have anyone form the university check if they are season tickets is to not give the exact location. When selling online just say section 25 , between rows 12-14.

The University might check if an exact ticket belongs to a season ticket holder online, but there is now way they will care enough to buy them, then look at the ticket, then find out who it belongs to.

Geaux_Blue

March 27th, 2010 at 3:19 PM ^

stfu. you're wrong. this keeps people from screaming in the Union with a bell that they have tickets and perhaps keeping potential ticket buyers from getting packages. under your interpretation, students couldn't sell in the dorms to their neighbor for face value. the approach is liability and market share - they can't afford to have ticket brokers buying out tickets at below face value and flipping them for face value in the Union, League, etc. i have explicitly asked a police officer if it was okay to be selling them at or below face value and he said it was my right. further, your cut and paste removes all interpretation. everything you delved into is transfer rights of a seat (aka you can't deed them to your boss for $500) and VENDING.

it's gotten beyond you trying to be helpful and into you just trying to scream loudest. just stop. you're wrong.

pz

March 27th, 2010 at 1:02 PM ^

it sounds like you just have to sell them at face to someone you trust won't try to re-sell them for more than face value.

You could ask the folks that sit next to you earlier on in the season if they want more tickets for a particular game, or just go to some other Michigan friends who might be interested.

Blazefire

March 27th, 2010 at 2:08 PM ^

and nobody cares.

If you are a jerk that wants to make a profit, sell them with something, like a baseball card, and claim they're free with the purchase of the card. Then nobody still cares.

Trust me. They want butts in the seats to sell concessions and support the team. They don't give two hoots and a holler who actually has the tickets.

A2MIKE

March 27th, 2010 at 6:09 PM ^

Scalping is one of the purest forms of capitalism. Did you not take econ 101? When you buy stock, a house, or anything that can increase in value, do you not expect to sell it at a later date for a profit. If you have something of value there should be nothing wrong with selling it for fair market value. Selling your tickets for profit does not a jerk one make. I understand it is illegal in Michigan, but we are one of the last few, and its only a matter of time before that law is repealed. Scalping is legal in 37 states (quick google check) and most of it is done through Ebay, StubHub and other sites. The scalping laws were originally in place to prevent fraudulent tickets from being resold outside the stadium. It was impossible to police this without putting a blanket "no scalping" law in place. What effect does it have on you if someone sells their ticket to someone willing to pay a higher price for it?

aenima0311

March 27th, 2010 at 3:21 PM ^

I've bought and sold tickets at the Golf Course and other areas around but a significant distance from the stadium. Always at face value or less, and it's never been a big deal.