Rich Rodriguez’s Recruiting = Michigan Win vs. Bama?
This morning my co-workers (a couple of which are fans of SEC schools) and I chatted about Michigan’s odds of beating Bama, and they insisted if we win it’s because of Rich Rodriguez’s recruiting of athletes (i.e. Denard, Fitz, Gallon, Roundtree, Roh, etc.) that can keep up with the speed of SEC teams. I then responded that there’s no way we would be able to keep Bama within striking distance with Rich Rod’s defenses, and they then pointed out how Rich Rod beat SEC teams at West Virginia on several occasions and beat Oklahoma in a BCS game.
The Board’s thoughts on this? I was pretty dismissive until thinking about it. All of our offensive starters were RRod recruits, and 9 to 10 of our defensive starters were RRod recruits.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:14 PM ^
August 30th, 2012 at 1:15 PM ^
RR brought us some very good players who are now upperclassmen. Hoke and Co. now coach them to make them better players. Not a whole lot else to say about it.
August 30th, 2012 at 3:26 PM ^
Rich Rodriguez + Anything = 100+ MGoPosts.
And usually 200+. Everytime. No matter what I say or do. And without fail, the flame that lights the fuse is not a Rodriguez defender, but rather a Rodriguez-hating fanboy who is so chapped that Michigan never beat Ohio State while they were students or some such thing. (Tell it to the kids who were undergrads from 2004-2007 when the team was coached by Carr and lost to the Ohio State University Buckeyes four years in a row.)
The massive irony is that when Rich Rodrigez was coaching Michigan and was under attack in the media, and people like Brian Cook were defending Rodriguez, the very first argument made against people like Brian (and I suppose, me) is that we were just fanboys, trying to protect and cover for our beloved football team. We couldn't see the truth because we were blinded by Michigan fandom.
So how's that workin' out now? Is my Michigan fandom blinding me?
August 30th, 2012 at 3:33 PM ^
Is my Michigan fandom blinding me?
No, your stupidity blinding you.
August 30th, 2012 at 3:39 PM ^
So far, so good . . .
Big brother is watching . . .
I am a pretty, pretty princess who lets her personal affairs interfere with her MGoDuties.
August 30th, 2012 at 3:41 PM ^
Otherwise, do you care to explain these as anything besides trolling? I'd be interested to hear an explanation, since I can't think of a single non-troll use of "Walverines" (twice in the same post) or quotes regarding gay marriage and the political climate of a city in a posters name.
http://mgoblog.com/comment/reply/71033/1679290
Which all goes to the point that for at least some Walverines, their memories are just as short, their collective understand just as badly warped, and their fanatacism [sic] just as bad, as any other team.
http://mgoblog.com/comment/reply/71033/1679600
"Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel said Chick-fil-A has no place in his city. (And Emanuel has no place at the family-friendly Chick-fil-A—not with his potty mouth.) Emanuel intoned that “Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values.” This was a breaking-news twofer, as most people weren’t aware that the graft-laden youth-homicide capital of the United States had any values." ~ Matt Labash in the Weekly Standard; August, 201
You got lucky a mod didn't see it at first, or I assume you would have lost your points like all the rest of the people saying "Walverines" or posting some crap that's supposed to be "not-quite-political-enough-for-a-banhammer, but still pretty damn political". You're no better than the idiots saying "Dick Rod went 0-6 against our main two rivals" or anything like that.
August 30th, 2012 at 5:16 PM ^
But you've given alot of people a lot of shit in the couple of years I've been on this board. Why do you feel like the only valid opinion is yours? Trolling is also when you type what you did about posting before Section 1 has a chance to troll. Then you constantly search out and dig up posts that are completely taken out of context to make some type of point, as you did here. Section 1 is obviously a Michigan fan, and I assume because you are as well, you could find some common ground, or just ignore him. But I guess you wouldn't have 8,000 points if you did that. RELAX! Maybe start a food blog for your aunt's cooking or something that isn't as intense for you as blogging about college football.
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August 30th, 2012 at 6:12 PM ^
August 30th, 2012 at 10:06 PM ^
August 30th, 2012 at 4:28 PM ^
Baiting a troll is nearly as bad as trolling.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:17 PM ^
was not WVU's coach when they beat OU.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:23 PM ^
Are you kidding me
August 30th, 2012 at 2:23 PM ^
He's technically right, if not completely fair in the bigger picture.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:32 PM ^
RR you kidding me?
RIGHT? NOT BAD?
August 30th, 2012 at 1:18 PM ^
this Rich Rodriguez you speak of? I choose not to recall who that is, or what affect he had on our program... like no OL or DL depth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 30th, 2012 at 1:18 PM ^
if speed was the only thing required to win, the Jamaican track team should form a new NFL squad.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:55 PM ^
It worked in Cool Runnings!
August 30th, 2012 at 1:20 PM ^
August 30th, 2012 at 2:10 PM ^
Why would you have to see the game first to suggest that RR's recruiting of speed would be beneficial against Alabama? These boards are built on theorizing and conjecture.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:46 PM ^
Im about to watch a few kids I would have loved seeing at Michigan. Plus Frost....
September 2nd, 2012 at 9:22 AM ^
In fact, you would have to have NOT seen the game first to suggest this.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:20 PM ^
Not worried about Bama's speed. More their size.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:30 PM ^
This. The SEC's dominance over the last few years, and unfortunately that is an accurate statement, has been feuled not by ESSSSS-EEEEEE-CEEEE SPEEEEEEEEED, but rather a bunch of big, bad ass dudes on both lines. You'd think fan bases as "knowledgeable" as those in the South would understand this...
August 30th, 2012 at 5:16 PM ^
I think it's a mixture of size and speed. When you're a 5'11" 220 lbs. linebacker who runs a 4.5, it's not a big deal. When you're a 6'4" 250 lbs. linebacker who runs a 4.6, it's scary.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:24 PM ^
beat SEC teams at WVU with his DC.
Then he came to Michigan and had DCs he'd never worked with before.
You wanna talk defense? There's the RR/Defense conversation.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:42 PM ^
you aren't much of a head coach if the loss of one assistant causes a meltdown of Chernobyl like proportions on one side of the ball. Head coaches are in charge of entire teams, not just offenses. This includes special teams. Thats the part where they kick the ball through the uprights.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:26 PM ^
...and if we lose, who gets credit for that??
I think you need to get yourself some new co-workers.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:48 PM ^
Yeah, as the Michigan guy, can't you just fire them?
August 30th, 2012 at 6:16 PM ^
many people have the co-workers they deserve.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:27 PM ^
I could see how it might work out in your favour, however, while your first team might very well be as fast as any SEC team, its the next group and the next group on the 2-3 deep. Doesn't seem to matter who is playing for Bama, they are all almost first team fast.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:28 PM ^
be because of RR's recruiting. That's for sure. It will because of the motivation level of the current players and the coaching job of the current staff. If you doubt this, ask yourself what you think the outcome of the game would be if RR and his staff were still coaching here. ANS: Blowout City.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:03 PM ^
August 30th, 2012 at 2:55 PM ^
August 30th, 2012 at 8:17 PM ^
I was with you until "go slit your wrists." Let's keep it civil.
August 30th, 2012 at 10:34 PM ^
We got beat up by a perennial bottom-feeder in the SEC in Miss St under RR. This coaching staff is without a doubt the biggest difference. There shouldn't even be a debate about that.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:29 PM ^
August 30th, 2012 at 1:42 PM ^
Depends on your definition of 'well'.
August 30th, 2012 at 3:48 PM ^
This meme will never end. This thread will be replaced by another very similar to it, and the beating of the dead horse will continue.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:29 PM ^
Pretty sure Michigan had beated SEC teams before RR was hired. And I'm pretty sure RR was the coach when Michigan got stomped by a mediocre SEC team a couple years ago.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:41 PM ^
Not sure how this is "overrated" - it's fact.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:31 PM ^
This is RR's senior year.
August 30th, 2012 at 3:32 PM ^
We also had a very, very young team then. And no defense (the one major area I do assign blame on RR). Not so much anymore...
August 30th, 2012 at 1:33 PM ^
our favorite DC of all time, Greggggggg Robinson when he was at WVU.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:48 PM ^
RR didn't have our favorite DC of all time,Greg gggggg Robinson Mattison when he was at WVU
August 30th, 2012 at 1:33 PM ^
RR's recruiting was excellent for the first 12 months. If a miracle strikes and we win the game Saturday, then yes, he deserves some credit for recruiting Denard, Roundtree, Omameh, Lewan, Schofield, Fitz, Big Wil, Roh, Gordon, and so on.
HIs problem with recruiting was that, after that first 12 months, it all completely tanked. 2013 and maybe 2014 are when you will fully see the effects of this.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:03 PM ^
...the Free Press witch hunt and NCAA allegations might have been brought up by opposing coaches during recruiting? Nah, coaches would never do that. They have (had?) a gentlemen's agreement.
August 30th, 2012 at 2:04 PM ^
...Nothing to see here.
August 30th, 2012 at 1:33 PM ^
Big brother is watching . . .