Rest of Rivals 250 Rankings

Submitted by robbyt003 on January 16th, 2019 at 12:15 PM


So yesterday we found out:

15. Hinton (Up 28 spots)

24. Dax Hill

60. Charbonnet (Down 21 spots)

90. Trente Jones (Up 108 spots!!!)

MSU commit Dobbs fell out of top 100, and landed at 122 (Down 74 spots)

Rest of Michigan players in top 250 (released today)

142. Mazi Smith (Up 32 spots)

171. Cornelius Johnson

182. Quinten Johnson (Up 55 spots!)

190. Jalen Perry (Down 20 spots)

199. Nolan Rumler (Down 58 spots)

208. Trevor Keegan

233, Giles Jackson (Down 4 spots)






January 16th, 2019 at 11:16 PM ^

He's playing/practicing at both...but he's a guard right now. But not a "guard all day" like some poster above claims as if he can see the future.

The plan is for him to do what Ruiz did, start at guard and provide real depth with Spanellis. When Ruiz leaves, he's supposed to compete with Carpenter for the starting C spot.

My question is, who's the true backup center next year? We say Vastardis and he could be in a blowout when all 5 guys come in, but I bet Spanellis would come in first if it's just to replace Ruiz because...his helmet came off.


January 16th, 2019 at 2:02 PM ^

I will take Charbonnet as a high 4**** playing virtually every down as a RB and LB in HS every day of the week. I have not seen a better RB tape in this class...the kid is a beast. Great cuts and acceleration for a kid his size. He will think he is on vacation-playing only half the downs. 

A dynamic, dynamite player.

4th and Go For It

January 16th, 2019 at 12:24 PM ^

Pretty decent showing for the class overall with 11 guys in the top 250. 

For perspective:

  • Alabama has 20 committed/signed in the top 250 (monster class)
  • Georgia has 13
  • Clemson has 12
  • PSU has 9
  • OSU has 8
  • ND has 7
  • MSU has 3  (two of which are offensive lineman)


January 16th, 2019 at 11:22 PM ^

That can be true, but getting Dobbs and getting him 4-5 years of coaching under Warriner doesn't mean he also wouldn't be an All-B1G performer.

Mayfield could be the #1 overall pick and leave as the greatest OT in school history...Dobbs could be 1st team all-conference and a 2nd round pick - meaning he's not as good as Mayfield. I'll take that as my other tackle every day of the week.

Getting Mayfield doesn't soften the blow...watching Dobbs become a huge bust at MSU absolutely would.


January 16th, 2019 at 12:33 PM ^

I know these are kids but I don’t care for Dobbs. He seems like a punk and there’s just something about him I don’t like. Oh yeah he picked East Lansing over Ann Arbor. 


January 16th, 2019 at 1:21 PM ^

I have no idea if he is a punk or not; he's a high school kid, so if he has acted immaturely in terms of comments, that doesn't concern me.

What *does* concern me, as I've posted a couple times, is he doesn't dominate on the field. He is clearly athletically gifted; but it is shocking to me that Belleville didn't run behind him at key moments during key games, and during a good portion of play, he seemed disengaged.

Maybe the light comes on at MSU (nothing personal against him, but I hope it doesn't), but he has never truly been a 5-star, and I've never been disappointed the staff "missed" on him.

Barnett? That dude is really talented. Maybe he didn't perform well during that all-star week, but I've seen him enough to know he is very athletically gifted and "makes plays." He definitely would have fit at UM, but it wasn't to be.

Gentleman Squirrels

January 16th, 2019 at 12:34 PM ^

Cornelius Johnson also moved up significantly. He wasn't ranked nationally on Rivals before and was a 3 star for them and #69 WR. You can see that if you go to their position breakdown which doesn't update until tomorrow or Friday. This is a big jump for him.


January 16th, 2019 at 1:02 PM ^

Do the 247 composite rankings instantly change/reflect these rivals changes, or does someone at 247 sports actually have to input all of these, then  hit some 'update' button?

O S Who

January 16th, 2019 at 1:27 PM ^

i manually type the list into a microsoft excel worksheet. then i take the list and send it to the 247 "report a tip" email address. sometimes i bump all the michigan recruits up 4 spots and figure they wont notice because it is just 4 spots (harbaugh's number).

ive never received a reply but I assume they have built some type of trigger that automatically pulls my excel sheet in and updates their database accordingly. i think they just forgot to automate the thank you email.

It is also possible that they realized that my list was fake and stopped using it because rashan gary was ranked -4 on the list in 2016. I didnt think that one through in my formula.


January 16th, 2019 at 1:19 PM ^

Man, Dobbs mustve really fucked up at the All American game. Dude dropped 70+ spots. Normally people don't drop this far unless they skip camps.

Karlaftis also dropped 50+ spots

4th and Go For It

January 16th, 2019 at 1:30 PM ^

there's been a lot of scuttlebut even before the game that Dobbs had been overrated with his initial rankings based mainly on his physical abilities and potential. May be a response to his senior season that was capped off with that lackluster performance. As other posters have mentioned, he's a man amongst boys physically but hasn't dominated the way one might expect. 

The Karlaftis one is more of a mystery.


January 16th, 2019 at 2:08 PM ^

Since 2010 this is the number of top 250 recruits per year compared to Ohio State.  Blue is U-M, red is OSU.  Source of data is 24/7 composite.



U-M has averaged 8.4 top 250 players per year versus OSU averaging 13.2.  In the Harbaugh era, it is 9.0 per year versus 14.0.