Request to fans for Air Force game on 9/8/12

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on April 21st, 2012 at 12:38 PM

As someone whose family has a long, well-documented history in the US military, I am making a request for anyone who sees this. For the game on against the falcons on 9/8, do not boo the air force team or their fight song when they enter.

Keep in mind: these guys aren't playing football to be in the NFL someday. They're playing football because they love it, and are eventually going to serve our country.

I know this is kind of a random thing in the offseason but I was just thinking about this today because I was watching a replay of ND vs Air Force from this past season the other night. And those pricks were booing the air force team as they entered!

To me, that's really disrespectful. I'm not too sure how things went down the last time Michigan hosted a service academy (1981 vs Navy), but let's show respect for them.

Yes, of course I want Michigan to blow them out of the stadium and win the game.

Thoughts?

Comments

MichiganExile

April 21st, 2012 at 12:42 PM ^

I agree with everything you say,  but this is Michigan. Air Force is going to get an applause equal to or perhaps even surpassing the one our own kids get. We don't poop in coolers here.

Silly Goose

April 21st, 2012 at 12:44 PM ^

Good idea, but you should post a reminder about it closer to game time. We have a long time between now and September and people will most likely forget about this post.

Unfortunately, I have a feeling this won't work, as there are too many idiotic students who don't actually follow the team and just show up to the games to be drunk and make noise.

dcmaizeandblue

April 21st, 2012 at 12:45 PM ^

They're the opposing team so I'm not sure why this is such a bad thing.  I have a great repsect for the military but I don't feel its that big of a deal for a football game.

tbeindit

April 21st, 2012 at 12:46 PM ^

Agree.  I was planning to post about it the week before the game or so.  Also, do NOT do the you suck chant.  It would be very disrespectful and not something that should represent Michigan.

justingoblue

April 21st, 2012 at 12:52 PM ^

I have a lot of respect for the academies, one of my best friends graduated from USNA last year and did an exchange semester at AFA, so I know (at least secondhand) what these guys go through and the dedication it takes to attend. Howeva, they're coming to the Big House to play football, and I hope they lose big. As for booing, I could take it or leave it; while it would be a nice gesture, those cadets are there to beat Michigan, and that's boo worthy in Michigan Stadium.

That said, I've heard it's traditional for referees to stop by the USNA's hockey locker room after their games and give them a "thanks for everything" which I always thought was a great thing to do.

Commie_High96

April 21st, 2012 at 12:53 PM ^

These guys will be serving the country, but today they are college kids no different from any other. There are ROTC kids at OSU, does that mean OSU shouldn't be booed? That said, I don't really boo anyone.

Belisarius

April 21st, 2012 at 12:53 PM ^

I don't know. I see the point, but coming from a Navy family, I can tell you these guys don't act cordially with each other. It's a game. I think the proper time to show our respect is during the National Anthem, and then treat it like a game.

bigpapa.KG

April 21st, 2012 at 12:56 PM ^

that this is a given and being respectful to our service members is something that people shouldn't have to be told, including the undergrads.  I graduated 2 years ago and I know I would have been very dissapointed in my colleagues if they had harrased their team or their fans.

BlockM

April 21st, 2012 at 12:58 PM ^

I don't have a problem with not booing, but I also don't think it's disrespectful. If I were one of them I'd want the full Big House experience.

BiSB

April 21st, 2012 at 1:19 PM ^

I doubt Air Force wants to be coddled. They aren't coming for a love-fest; they're coming to the Big House to play football and to try to win a game. I imagine that fans and players will treat them with proper respect and appreciation, but the first time BWC lights up their quarterback, fans won't feel bad about cheering his demise.

Patent Pending

April 21st, 2012 at 3:35 PM ^

I don't think anyone is saying that we shouldn't cheer for UM.  I think the idea was to also cheer Air Force when they first take the field rather than boo them like we usually do an opponent.

The PA announcer will no-doubt introduce the AFA in a very glowing patriotic way.  Taking his cue, a majority of the UM fans will likely either cheer or at least not boo.  The few who do will then look like assholes to everyone around them. 

The only reason to boo would be to justify ones own belief that they are a bigger "fan" than the adults around them.

Jasper

April 21st, 2012 at 12:59 PM ^

Maybe I'm too old to remember these things, but how often do non-conference teams (ND and other long-time rivals excepted) get booed?

As well, the OP's post is a little too "Moral Majority" for my taste. We had another one these a few days ago that addressed recruits and Twitter harassment. Do MGoBlog users really need preemptive scolding?

Anyway, it's just football.

EZMIKEP

April 21st, 2012 at 1:01 PM ^

I am not seeing the logic in this at all. It is tradition. And if it is disrespectful to do it to Air Force then it is no different for anyone else. If we are representing Michigan as stated above, doing it at anytime is representative of what we do. Just because it is Air Force doesn't mean we should act any differently. Outside of a few idiots like at any venue we are a decent place to watch a game. If we have fun, root for our team and give a little razzing in the process does not make Michigan a disrespectful fanbase in it's representation. 

Flamebait

April 21st, 2012 at 1:02 PM ^

Don't take this as Flamebait but... It's a football game.  The Air Force players might feel robbed of an experience if they didn't face hostile crowds on the road.  (Think back to any of our playing days in high school or whatever how would it feel if the opposing crowd was cheering you on or giving you a light time.)  Being booed honestly is part of the fun.  I don't have the fortune to get up to A2 for many games anymore.  So someone let out a hearty stream of boos for me!

Bosch

April 21st, 2012 at 1:47 PM ^

of the possibility that the Air Force players might want to be treated like any other opponent that comes into Michigan Stadium? 

They do play football because they love it.... and part of playing football is playing in front of hostile crowds. 

I suspect that they are tough enough to handle a few boos.

Edit:  Didn't read Flaimbait's response before posting.  Looks like it might be more than just a notion.

LVaught89

April 21st, 2012 at 1:46 PM ^

I appreciate the fact that these men have made a choice to serve their country. However, they will be subject to a hell of a lot worse than booing from opposing fans in the very near future. I feel confident that they can handle what any other opposing team has to deal with at a typical road game.

I have plenty of family members that have gone through various service academies that will tell you that the deification of service members has gone beyond the pale since 9/11. If you choose to serve, good for you, but joining in and of itself is not a heoric act and does not mean you're a patriot.

 

Bodogblog

April 21st, 2012 at 2:38 PM ^

If you wait pre-game by the east gate for the team bus, you get to boo the visitors first. This is where you notice things like Brian Kelly getting off first and rushing into the locker room, as his team wanders in behind. This as opposed to Hoke, who ushers in his entire team, waving them in and offering encouragement, before entering the locker room last. Also, Frank Clark was a skinny kid last year - expect him to be much better with a year of college conditioning.

Anyway, I'll be at that gate cheering for both teams this year.

archangel2k12

April 21st, 2012 at 6:31 PM ^

I am an active duty Air Force NCO and a lifelong Michigan Wolverines fan that grew up in Ohio.  I am going to try to make it up to this game to root for Michigan.  I would like to think that we wouldn't boo the cadets unless they earn it.  (Hopefully they don't)  Go Blue!

snarling wolverine

April 21st, 2012 at 7:04 PM ^

I don't think this is a big concern.  We don't really boo nonconference opponents that much when they enter the stadium in the first place.  We will, however, make noise when they have the ball - it's a football game, after all.

MGoShoe

April 21st, 2012 at 7:47 PM ^

...and Cleveland native. He loves to tell the story about how when he attended the Ohio-Navy game a few years ago the Mids and their fans received a fabulous welcome at the Horseshoe.

The bottom line is that there's really no reason to boo a non-rival non-conference team. I happen to think that Michigan fans who welcome opponents and their fans and are gracious in victory or defeat do a ton of good for the program's reputation. Meanwhile, fans who think that the only way to create an intimidating atmosphere is to be a jerk are deluded.

I'd really hate to hear from AFA fans that they were poorly treated. It would be incredibly embarrassing to have my boss go on and on about how Ohio fans know how to treat a service academy while lecturing me on Michigan fans' poor behavior.

M-Wolverine

April 21st, 2012 at 9:10 PM ^

They shouldnt come to Michigan Stadium and challenge us in how they think football should be played. They're a football team. If they didn't want to be treated like one, they wouldn't have fielded it in the first place.

Though I don't know how much we boo anyway. Maybe a low rumble when they run out onto the field; a bit more if a team is being all jackassy about it. They come out like Air Force, and not Ohio, they'll be fine. They're big boys.

DaytonBlue

April 21st, 2012 at 9:34 PM ^

Went thru ROTC and into the Air Force.  Think this is a litte too politically correct.  Go ahead and boo if that's what you are inclined to do.  Doubt the cadets will care. 

ILOVEM27

April 22nd, 2012 at 1:17 AM ^

You can bet your ass I will be booing and so will the rest of section 9. I will always boo every visiting team, even if Slipery Rock showed up to get whiped.

ILOVEM27

April 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 AM ^

Opps I didn't know you could not post ass on here, my apologies. You can bet your butt I will boo them and every other team that dares challenge the Wolverines. Go Blue!