? Regarding B-Ball redshirting

Submitted by jtmc33 on December 10th, 2010 at 8:45 PM

What is the "Amount played" rule (if any) for a true freshman before he cannot be redshirted.  With 2 Jrs, 2 Sophs, and 6 freshman, I ask because Christian seems to be getting very limited playing time and wondering if he is still "redshirtable" and develop a bit for 2011-12 and beyond

Obviously Horford, Smotryz (sp?) and Hardaway are not going to redshirt; and McLimans and Morgan are RFr, but with limited schollies for next year, redshirting Christian may be an option giving the team 3 Fr. for next year ( or is it too late?)

Comments

formerlyanonymous

December 10th, 2010 at 8:47 PM ^

Any games played without a major injury ending your season will burn a red shirt. If you have a major injury, you can't participate in more than 20% of your games.

Could be wrong though.

madtadder

December 11th, 2010 at 10:24 AM ^

30% rounded up, so .3 * 12 is 3.6 rounded up to four, anyone playing more than four games of the first six can't redshirt. Devin Gardner played in UConn, Notre Dame,  and Bowling Green (didn't realize he never played in UMass) before "being injured," so he is still eligible.

Raoul

December 10th, 2010 at 9:16 PM ^

I'm pretty sure that all sports now follow the same redshirt rules (as FA said). I posted the following in another thread from earlier this week. It's from ehow.com. Seems like this question comes up on a weekly basis. Is there some place that frequently asked sports questions could go?

Voluntary Redshirt Seasons

Basketball players must plan their redshirt season in advance, because once they enter any intercollegiate game for even a single play, they are not eligible to be a redshirt that year. Players are eligible for a voluntary redshirt season only if they do not play in any portion of any game in that season.

Medical Redshirt Seasons

In the case of a serious injury or illness, a basketball player can take a redshirt season even if he has participated in games. Players are eligible for a redshirt season under the medical hardship rule if they sustain a season-ending injury or other medical condition, but the NCAA will grant the redshirt year only under two conditions. First, the injury must have happened in the first half of the team's season. Second, the player cannot have played in more than 20 percent of the games on the team's season schedule. The school's athletic conference and the NCAA will request medical documentation before allowing the redshirt season.

WojoRisin

December 10th, 2010 at 9:37 PM ^

I'm not sure how much this matters, but players can participate in exhibition games without burning their redshirt. Basically, any player that has played after the SVSU game can't redshirt this year without applying for a medical redshirt.

BoiseBlue

December 11th, 2010 at 2:00 AM ^

Pretty sure they mentioned 30% as the cutoff when they were talking about Kyrie Irving's injury and the potential for him missing the remainder of the season. Granted he'll never use that redshirt since it'd take an act of God to keep him at Duke 5 years, but at this point I would think it would still be possible for Christian to redshirt, although I doubt he will.

Great win and go blue!

Raoul

December 11th, 2010 at 11:27 AM ^

I believe you're correct about 30 percent now being the cutoff across all NCAA sports. After a fair amount of digging, I found a source indicating that the NCAA changed the percentage from 20 percent to 30 percent in April 2007. So, the ehow.com info I posted above appears to be correct except that the percentage is wrong. The following is from a June 2007 article at illinihq.com:

Here's what the amendment [to the medical hardship criteria] says: A player can compete in 30 percent of a team's games – instead of 20 percent – in the first half of the season and still be eligible for a medical hardship waiver. For example, if Illinois plays a 28-game schedule and a player is injured in the eighth game, he still can meet the criteria for a medical hardship waiver. Under the old rule, he would have to be injured in or before the fifth game.

"At the end of the day, it was a value judgment that 30 percent of the season better represented a good opportunity to have meaningful participation in that season," said Chad Hawley, the Big Ten's assistant commissioner for compliance. "If the idea is for student-athletes to have four full seasons of competition while they're in college, the thought was that 30 (percent) gets a student-athlete closer to fulfilling the idea of full participation."