Red Wings and Pistons - What Kind of Season Will they Have?

Submitted by xtramelanin on

Mates,

Just watched the end of the Wings game, a 5-3 victory vs. the Predators.  That's their 3rd straight win to get them to 3-2, after starting the season 0-for-Florida.   They didn't do too much in free agancy and seem to be destined to be an 8 seed in the playoffs, just barely able to keep the play off streak alive.  Are they better than that? 

And for the Pistons, they did sign Drummond again and have most (all?) of their starting five back, and they too finally broke back into the playoffs last year as well.

So the question is this:  What are these two teams going to do this season?  Mediocre?  Marked improvement?   Deteriorate and crater?  Why? 

Hope you are all going to the game tomorrow.  Enjoy.

XM

Night_King

October 21st, 2016 at 10:27 PM ^

Confident in Pistons due to roster depth and mainly, SVG. Red Wings have looked better last 3 games, but I fail to understand why Blashill changes the lines every game. I think he should let the players have some consistency with their linemates. Also, Mantha NEEDS to be on the team, he has six goals in four games in Grand Rapids and seems to be going to waste there. Bring the kid up.

MtP Michigan Man

October 21st, 2016 at 10:28 PM ^

Van Gundy seems to be doing right things w Pistons.  Really young, talented, seem to mesh well.  A couple more years, a couple more smart moves - could be great team.

Wings have bigger challenge - replacing Datysuk, close to 20% of cap spent on goalies, no stars.  But so much parody in salary capped NHL - who knows.  Love that they have given us 25 years of playoffs and great hockey.  Ilitch and Holland rule!  Hope they can work their magic again.

Live down South - but love my teams from the D!!!

xtramelanin

October 21st, 2016 at 10:52 PM ^

no stars besides larkin.  decent goal-tending, but back line is meh.  love z, but he is past his prime.  vanek doing well early, but the sseaon is young.

and for the pistons, good to read all the positive comments.  maybe i'm just too used to them stinking up the joint.  not a huge fan, but it is nice when they do well. 

mgobleu

October 21st, 2016 at 10:30 PM ^

I expect the wings to fight hard all year to ride the bubble and eventually stumble their way and fall ass backward into the playoffs just to get bounced in the first round.

Piston Blue

October 21st, 2016 at 10:31 PM ^

are already a good team, and they're only going to get better. However, a big key of the offense is out for about 6 more weeks (Reggie Jackson) so hopes for a fast start are likely unrealistic. This team is really young though and is coached really well, they should be one of the top teams in the East with potential to eventually challenge the Cavs in the coming years.

DK81

October 21st, 2016 at 10:33 PM ^

Pistons will be a top three seed for sure. They may challenge the Cavs for the Eastern Conference. It is going to be tough to challenge the Warriors (assuming no injuries) this year though.

Mr. Yost

October 21st, 2016 at 10:43 PM ^

They were an 8-seed last year and got swept. What huge thing happened to make them "top three seed for sure" this off season?

Should they be improved? Absolutely! COULD they be a top 3 seed? I suppose. But it's far from a lock. There's only 1 team in the East that's a lock to be a top 3 seed...sorry, but it ain't Detroit.

DK81

October 21st, 2016 at 11:59 PM ^

Raptors are coming back to earth. Don't think boston will have enough offense to stay infront of Detroit unless Jackson is out for longer than expected. Watch that playoff series with the Cavs again. Pistons were in every single games besides game 2. Cavs hit some of the craziest half court/ falling out of bound shots at the end of the shotclock i've ever seen. Sleep on the pistons at your own peril.



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Albion_Grad

October 22nd, 2016 at 9:50 AM ^

The argument that they were an 8 seed and got swept in the playoffs (by the champs) is a lazy take. What you're missing is Tobias Harris only played 26 ish games for them last year and the bench was a dumpster fire outside of a resurgent Stanley Johnson once he got out of injury slump. Back up point guard and PF/C have been solidified, Stanley plays 3 positions and the other two back up shooting guards could have a break out year. All signs point to a larger jump. Yes the injury to Reggie is concerning but I would argue that could make them more dangerous down the stretch with fresher legs. No one in the east should scare anyone including the cavs who just inherited the Kardashian curse

GoBlueBill

October 21st, 2016 at 10:51 PM ^

Huge Wings fan and I expect very little from them this year .

They have surprised me so far after going  0-2 to start the year . If the goaltending keeps playing the way it is ,  they will make the playoffs .

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

October 21st, 2016 at 10:54 PM ^

I like this emphasis the Wings seem to have on fighting more.  Larkin got high-sticked by Yannick Weber, and then Weber came in and tried to bully him around with a cross check.  The refs did nothing, so Larkin took care of things.

I was more impressed when I thought it was Shea Weber, before I remembered he was traded to Montreal, but still.

DenverRob

October 21st, 2016 at 11:02 PM ^

Wings are a bubble playoff team. I think the streak ends at the quarter century mark unfortunately.
Pistons, I have no idea as I have lost interest in the NBA since every one joins forces and only 4 teams have a chance to win it all.



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BLHoke

October 21st, 2016 at 11:11 PM ^

I think the Wings will scrap to keep the streak alive only to fall just shy after losing Pavel... The Pistons were much better than an 8 seed last year, they just have to learn to finish games. I think just by way of young talent improving, they have a good shot at finishing anywhere from 4 to 6 and an appearance in the 2nd round. Cavs will coast to the 1 seed, I thing Boston takes the 2... And for the 3, I think between the Bulls and NYKs, one will surprise and one will disappoint. The other 3 should be made up of Toronto, ATL and Indiana.



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BornInAA

October 22nd, 2016 at 12:04 AM ^

None.

Product way down - just bad.

Haven't watched pistons in 20 years.

Didn't watch a single regular season Wings game last year. 

Only have so much free time and they are no longer part of that.

nerv

October 22nd, 2016 at 2:17 AM ^

These are the comments I will just never understand. You neither watch nor enjoy either team. The post was asking what we think they'll do this season. Yet here we are.

Don't have enough time to watch them.. but have just enough to read and comment on a thread about them.

nerv

October 22nd, 2016 at 1:24 AM ^

This is a great year if you want to attend some Pistons games. The team is getting better and better and is most certainly a playoff team. Couple that with the general 'meh' reaction that the Pistons seem to draw, as has been shown in this thread, and ticket prices will still be low. Good on court product combined with cheap tickets, win win. If they end up a top 4-5 seed and win a series the bandwagon will start to reform and tickets will go back up.

Drbogue

October 22nd, 2016 at 8:13 AM ^

Depends if Drummond spent his summer shooting free throws. I would have a contingency clause in his contract for at least 70% FT rate or he only gets 1/2 his salary



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Hotel Putingrad

October 22nd, 2016 at 9:49 AM ^

Pistons will be lucky to match last year's record if Jackson is out until Christmas. He's the straw that stirs the drink. As much as it pains me to say it, I think the Red Wings miss the playoffs this year. Too many third liners up front, and the kids on defense will not hold up with all the heavy minutes they'll get this year. Honestly the best thing for everyone would be to start over with a new GM and coach when LCA opens next year.

bronxblue

October 22nd, 2016 at 1:45 PM ^

They'll probably both be playoff teams, though I think the Pistons will be the higher seed just because of the relative strength of the East.  I could see them be a top-5 seed if someone at the 3 (maybe Stanley Johnson) can add some more scoring to go along with Drummond inside and Jackson at the point (when healthy).  I'm actually interested to see how good Chicago and Atlanta look this year; both of those teams are going to be different beasts than last season, and if they stumble the Pistons could fight for the 3 seed behind Cleveland and Boston.