PTI on RichRod vs Harbaugh

Submitted by Lil Michigan Man 7 on November 24th, 2010 at 5:22 PM

The PTI program on ESPN is going to discuss who they think would be a better coach at Michigan. Just thought I would let you guys know so you can watch and laugh at their absurd comments.



November 24th, 2010 at 5:25 PM ^

If they pick RR... I'd be shocked.  It's en mode to bash RR, because they only have about 20 seconds and can't get into the heart of the matter.  They also don't chronically read up on Michigan like us.


November 24th, 2010 at 5:26 PM ^

Around the Horn Summaries:

Fire him even if he wins, Harbaugh is the hottest name anywhere.

Fire him if he loses, 0-6, only .333 in Big Ten.

Fire him, their fans don't even like it when they win because their defense sucks.

Waters Demos

November 24th, 2010 at 5:32 PM ^

Appeal to the lowest common denominator and shape/win their sentiments.

Be inflammatory so as to be entertaining.

Don't be concerned with what contrary or subtle facts, but instead speak in truisms and generalities.  (Ok so this goes with the second one mentioned). 

Spoof Football

November 24th, 2010 at 8:41 PM ^

Apeal to the lowest common denominator?

Is that not what goes on here when someone dares insinuate that Rodriguez does not walk on water? When someone disagrees with the prevailing thought that the stench that is Michigan football is some sort of harbinger of future greatness because...well, because?

The vitriol that flies on this board when someone in the media also dares not bow to the image of Rodriguez as some sort of savior of Michigan football is nothing more than the lowest denominator, the primal, base attitude of a group of people who feel attacked and respond in a manner unbecomming of ANY fan base, let alone one that deems itself some sort of example of class and dignity.

This is hypocrisy of the highest order.


November 24th, 2010 at 8:50 PM ^

If they are informative and clued-in to what's going on here and if they can present their arguments logically, then I have absolutely no problem with their opinions. If they yell, shout, and rabble, just recycling old, tired (and often incorrect) arguments without analysis or original ideas, then it's drivel that appeals to the lowest common denominator.

RR is teh awesome!

Dickfraud sux!

Both are appealing to the lowest common denominator and are equally as irrelevant and moronic. Back up an argument with facts and logic, fine, but these talking heads on ESPN are idiots who do no more than read of a teleprompter and maybe take 30 seconds to read up on what happened last week. Uninformed, idiotic.

Waters Demos

November 24th, 2010 at 9:52 PM ^

You, sir, are a good writer.  And you have some interesting thoughts.  However, I don't agree with what you wrote here. 

Appeals to the LCD by definition have little, if any, insight, analysis, or thought.  They are empty hyberbole. 

That's what I'm reacting against here.  Not the pro-RR or anti-RR positions.  Either of them could be persuasive with facts, analysis, logic, argumentation, etc....  Neither of them can win by just fucking YELLING thoughtlessly.  That's what those TPI guys do sometimes.  That's what 24 hour news does generally.  That's what I don't like. 

Hopefully now you understand my post better - if so, put the breaks on, eh? 

"Take it down a notch, for America" - Jon Stewart. 


November 24th, 2010 at 5:32 PM ^

they've gone from 3-9 to 5-7 to 7-4. I don't know why anyone else doesn't see it, but they're getting better. It's already proven to me, but if they can shock the world this saturday, it may silence some people. 


November 24th, 2010 at 8:54 PM ^

our boys kick some ass this weekend because it will definitely hush the RR haters. When a coach has his players thinking of the 'Team' and giving it their 'all' on every play, then the coach is doing his job. RR is doing just that. These boys play hard every game, they might not look like they know what they're doing at times, but they play hard and that is all you can ask for. The future is so bright (for the Wolverines) the players will have to wear shades...

you know it

November 25th, 2010 at 12:35 AM ^

"they might not look like they know what they're doing at times, but they play hard and that is all you can ask for"

Are you kidding me?  A coach is there to teach players to improve and win games.  A major part of this is "knowing what to do". 

"When a Cheerleader has his players thinking of the 'Team' and giving it their 'all' on every play, then the Cheerleader is doing his job"

Fixed it for you.


November 24th, 2010 at 5:38 PM ^

Hearing them talk like that so uniformally made me sick.  Every single one of them said Rich Rod should be gone without giving it a second thought.  Whether we like it or not, national perception on ESPN matters....gross.

I want Rodriguez to succeed so badly, but fighting the "he should be fired" mantra is hard to overcome (see Weis but with less digested pizzas).  Even if Michigan wins Saturday, people can still say he's only 1-5 against MSU and OSU. 

Winning is the cure-all.  So let's keep winning. 

KC Wolve

November 24th, 2010 at 6:20 PM ^

I know they are all dumbasses, but all of them said fire RR?  Wow, I thought most people realized what has happened the last 3 years has sucked, but it would still be completely ignorant to fire him after 3 years.  




November 24th, 2010 at 7:18 PM ^

Pretty much they all agree  because on that stupid fuckin show they have to score points with that idiot that hosts it.


So basically if they all agree with each other, and bash RR they get more points..  Most of these idiots probably don't know anything on what is actually going on with the program so they have nothing good to say.

If someone were to say keep him they probably wouldn't have earned any points


November 24th, 2010 at 9:02 PM ^

They're incapable of seeing things in the long-term. Right here and right now, they see a Michigan team with the worst defense its ever had, and rather than to divulge into why this is and whether it can be remedied, they resort to "RR should be fired". Because, at the end of the day, the casual observer doesn't want to hear logical things like "at least let the guy develop one full senior class on his own" (which would be next year), they want to hear the sensationalist controversial views. Heck, I enjoy watching PTI and Around the Horn occasionally...but not when they talk about anything related to Michigan/Detroit sports.

kevin holt

November 25th, 2010 at 2:54 AM ^

I've found that he usually doles out points when someone supports their argument. He doesn't take sides generally, he just asks a question and two of the meatheads take different sides yet both earn points.

However, I do hate when they talk about us, because they're really uninformed. The reporters are all from distant cities. Though thank god none of them is a detroit reporter, cause it'd probably be the freep


November 24th, 2010 at 6:09 PM ^

Total crap, not worthy of this board.  The thing to not lose sight of though is that the users on here are some of the most dilligent and dedicated fans you'll find.  But this isn't close to the bulk of Michigan fans.  Most of them get their info from MSM, if at all.  The economic interests of the progam don't rest on pleasing the hardcore fans of Mgoblog, rather the average lesser informed fan.

They matter more because there are more of them.  Pleasing them by having a program that they believe strongly in, is a big factor working against Rich. 


November 24th, 2010 at 6:34 PM ^

This comparison is overblown. The PAC-10 is much better now than it was in the late 90s (when there were 0 dominant/powerhouse teams). Plus TW's best Stanford teams were 8-4 and 9-3. Their nonconference records were atrocious. Harbaugh's team this year is much better than any of Ty's Stanford teams.


November 24th, 2010 at 6:54 PM ^

The Pac 10 is atrocious this year.  At most they will have 4 teams that finish with a winning record this year.  A USC team with 4 losses, less than 70 scholarship players and a coach everyone makes fun of is probably the third best team in the league. 

Where are the "powerhouse teams" in that league?  Harbaugh has never won a bowl game and OSU easily handled Oregon last year in the Rose Bowl. 

That is not a good conference by any stretch of the imagination.