Submitted by Year of Revenge II on May 14th, 2017 at 10:43 AM

I believe it is generally unfair to generalize, but almost weekly I am shocked by the behaviors and attitudes of some schlump connected to PSU, be it coach, player, administrator or fan.

My latest vignette involves a sports book in sin city. Three youngish twentysomethings sit down at the interactive TV beside me, and are discussing NCAA Nat'l Championship prop bets. As they spoke of their need to beat MSU, OSU,  and finally, Michigan, I pipe in "that part ain't happening!"

I was proudly wearing my Maize "Worst State Ever" T-shirt, and opined UM is going to be much better than "experts" think, especially as season progresses.  They "should win easily in Happy Valley" because our running backs are average, Speight won't lose you games, but cannot win one, and McSorley is the next Johnny Unitas.  I pointed out the flaws in their thinking, but they were not impressed. 

I made a quick trip to my room to exchange eyeglasses, and when I returned minutes later, they had vanished, along with my new phone charger.  I looked about the property for them  for a short time to no avail.  

Is there now no bad deed or behavior below which PSU-connected people are unwilling to participate in?  Hard to imagine Hawkeye, Husker, or Badger fans executing this one, or even Spartans or Bucks slinking so low.

Is this just now Joepa culture, or has it always been?  Can it be fixed, or at least improved upon?




Chuck Norris

May 14th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^

I mean... it's a really talented team that won the B1G and beat Ohio State, returning almost all their starters, playing a night game at home against a team that lost almost everyone. If I were a Penn State fan I'd expect a win too.


May 14th, 2017 at 12:05 PM ^

they went to the Rose Bowl and almost beat a USC team that was playing a virtual home game and that many thought was a top 5 team at the end of the year.

If you are viewing PSU in the vacuum of the 49-10 loss to us, sure, they seem overrated. But one game (played while missing multiple linebacker-type-substances) does not a season make.

The Fan in Fargo

May 14th, 2017 at 4:45 PM ^

Yeah and because those 49 points had everything to do with those linebackers right? Get real. I suppose the 10 points by their non existent offense had everything to do with those linebackers as well? When Michigan was hitting on all of their cylinders, they were a way better team. However this year in Happy Valley wont be a 49-10 win. It'll be more like the two years ago with Michigan still winning. Michigan rules over the cho-mo lovers. Always have and always will. Reload Baby!


May 15th, 2017 at 8:39 AM ^

Good teams do not lose three in a row and how much did they lose to bama bye. USC was not a top five team. Linebackers do not play offense. We were missing our starting left tackle. Penn state is way overrated. I liked that they beat osu but it was a fluke and so was Minnesota game. Their o-line is not all that and they lost their two best d-lineman and their by far best receiver who always bailed Mcsorely out. Sure they can beat us at home, just like they beat osu, but I do not think they have the talent to win the east this year. The two most talented teams in the big ten are Michigan and osu.

Chuck Norris

May 14th, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^

Yeah, they lost with no linebackers from their two deep, and then another linebacker went out due to a (dubious) targeting call. And that didn't affect the offense, sure, but we had our best defense since 1997 out there. Almost all of whom are gone.

I agree that PSU's a bit over hyped this year, but to think they're not dangerous is needlessly arrogant.

Year of Revenge II

May 14th, 2017 at 1:11 PM ^

I agree with this football analysis, which others responding to the post failed to explore. The inevitable fun of "attacking the poster" overrides most things on this site.

Your points were my very ones with these three PSU students, who could not have disagreed more. They believe they are going to win the national championship. It will be a tough game for us to win at night there, but I'm beginning to hope that OSU pastes them in Columbus, which is probably what's going to happen.


May 14th, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^

If they ever talk their garbage to me, I will forever say "well hey, at least our coaches stick to sex with adults..."

I have zero respect for them and their program, and child rape supporters is all I will ever see them as.


May 14th, 2017 at 11:09 AM ^

I'm thinking to myself, isn't that your mistake?

I'm all for harmless banter but I don't get the whole going out of one's way to interject loyalty and pride when it's obviously not invited in the wrong forum, even amongst wretched PSU fans. Maybe the week of the PSU game, sure? But it's mid-May and even Robocop took a day off once in a while.


May 14th, 2017 at 11:11 AM ^

I can't believe you are making the leap, that only a Penn St fan would steal your charger. They probably think only a stupid Michigan fan would leave their charger in front of strangers.


May 14th, 2017 at 11:09 AM ^

I guess you shouldn't have piped in and started talking shit to strangers. It sounds to me like they were minding their own business until you butted into their conversation.


May 14th, 2017 at 11:09 AM ^

I don't feel bad for you. Don't join in random people's conversations and DEFINITELY don't leave your shit laying around unattended in Vegas.


May 14th, 2017 at 11:11 AM ^

so maybe you shouldn't have done that and maybe you shouldn't leave your stuff in a public place and be shocked when someone takes it


May 15th, 2017 at 9:13 AM ^

I think you are way over (or is it under?) estimating Buckeye nation and Sparty village

....and to a lesser extent elements w/in pretty much every  fanbase ;)

Year of Revenge II

May 14th, 2017 at 11:39 AM ^


I don't see anything in the OP about asking for sympathy, not thinking I had it coming (as if somebody deserves to have something stolen), not fully retracing my steps (which I did), etc.

In fact, I see only two or three replies whose composers are not in dire need of a remedial course in logic or reading comprehension. My bad for assuming otherwise. Go Blue.


May 14th, 2017 at 12:45 PM ^

Jesus. It's a blog post. You don't need to write every one of your posts like a Writing 101 class.

Also, if you actually look at how people are tearing into you, it's pretty clear they get the story. It's just not a good story at all.

And by lumping these guys stealing your phone charger into "Joepa culture", you really trivialize the issue.

"Is there now no bad deed or behavior below which PSU-connected people are unwilling to participate in? "

I mean, defending a guy who enabled child rape is one thing, but stealing phone chargers!? That's the last straw!


May 14th, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^

Let me get this straight, you left your cell phone charger unattended in Vegas and are mad at OTHER people that it's gone.

Suggestion: go back up to your room and take a good long look in the mirror at who is responsible for your charger being gone.

Also based on the way you are describing the conversation it kinda sounds like you were being a drunk jackass of the kind PSU fans will typify as a typical Michigan fan. But hey PSU gonna PSU or something.


May 14th, 2017 at 12:09 PM ^

My uncle is a PSU grad about 65 years ago. He distanced himself from the program. I work with a PSU grad. He never brings up sports. Meanwhile, a parent at my son's little league game wearing a PSU hat and t-shirt got ejected by the umpire for arguing a call and threatened to fight the ump after the game. Every fanbase is made up of the various elements of society.

Year of Revenge II

May 14th, 2017 at 1:16 PM ^

This is, of course, the most reasonable way to look at my trivial incident, and by extension, even the most serious one. I thought PSU got off pretty lightly in the whole sex scandal; it seems to me that Joe Pa was much more complicit then he would have had us believe.

I know it is not right to look at every Penn State person with a degree of disdain. It is just hard not to.