Post-Saturday games bowl projections: Michigan vs Florida in Peach Bowl

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on December 2nd, 2018 at 12:07 AM

12/29 vs Florida in the Peach Bowl by CBS

For the 3rd time in 4 years...

Scottwood

December 2nd, 2018 at 2:47 AM ^

Couldn’t the committee leapfrog Penn State past LSU to avoid 4 SEC teams in the playoff/New Years 6?

Georgia lost so LSU’s win over them is no longer as good as it was last week and Ohio State won so that makes Penn State’s loss vs them better. There is some way they could justify it.

bluewave720

December 2nd, 2018 at 7:28 AM ^

I don't understand why the committee doesn't make statements with how they slot 5+.  The bowl arrangements are important for all the players/teams, but they could do a lot of good for college football moving forwards.

-Drop SEC teams and say OOC schedule sucks.
-If OSU doesn't get in, keep them at 6 and have UCF leap them.  "Despite what conversations are initiated on telecasts, it is important if you lose by >21 points in a game, and you can't barely beat inferior teams all year and expect your resume to impress." 
-IF ND was 5, drop them to like 7 or 8 and say it's because they didn't play a conference title game.
-In reference to bullet #1, move a team up a couple of slots who scheduled good/great teams in the non conference.  Even make a comment about how the game was scheduled in June of 2016, and that effort was noticed.  If 1-loss 'bama had gotten in over a 1-loss conference champion Michigan, college football teams would be more incentivized to schedule baby seals pre conference. 

TL;DR - the playoff committee has 2 jobs.  Get the best ~4 teams with reasonable criteria and, in the process, try to make college football better moving forward. 

1VaBlue1

December 2nd, 2018 at 9:18 AM ^

"...try to make college football better moving forward."

This is EXACTLY what the committee should do.  They know the pressure for 8 teams, and that the NY6, and all other bowls, have no meaning.  They should be all in for improving the perception using matchups.  

But they won't.  They'll hide behind some document written years ago and say 'our charter only includes the playoff games'.  And thereby abdicate any responsibility to make the game watchable.

If there's one thing that absolutely disgusts me at work, its having to deal with people that hide behind the written word of a policy document, rather than employing common sense.  Fuck those people...  

umich1

December 2nd, 2018 at 6:00 AM ^

FiveThirtyEight predicts Oklahoma and Ohio State both jump Notre Dame and Georgia.

I’d love to see Notre Dame get punished like that for not playing in a conference  championship game.

Arb lover

December 2nd, 2018 at 8:49 AM ^

I agree with this for several reasons as well.

While they are undefeated, undefeated is not enough to get UCF in either... and while UCF played pretty much nobody, they are a conference champ. 

ND is not a conference champ, and had Georgia not had to play a conference championship, they would be in the CFP. (Read, had ND played Clemson last night they would have a loss, or Clemson would, but either way it is an extra significant chance at a loss). 2014 OSU leap frogged #3 non-conference champ TCU, for instance, and would not have gotten in in 2016 but for its win over Wisconsin. The committee has been pretty consistent over the last several years about how meaningful that conference championship game is.

Even though their schedule was not as strong as it could have been, they never really distinguished themselves like Bama and Clemson did through blow outs or clear wins. ND played many, many close games to the end to poor quality teams. For instance, ND played 4 poor quality teams within 1 score (Ball state, USC, Vandy, and Pitt). These four teams combined for a record of 22 wins and 27 losses over the season. Each of those four also had much worse losses, than to ND, from similarly poor quality teams. In short, ND may be undefeated, but it's mostly due to luck. 

Additionally, for ND to be out of the CFP completely, we have to compare them to OSU. Both teams played NW and Michigan. ND beat Michigan by 7, OSU by 23. ND beat NW by 10, OSU did it by 21. 

If we take the eye test, I'd guess most people would think that Oklahoma and OSU would both likely win against the ND team that has struggled so much this year. 

Panther72

December 2nd, 2018 at 6:52 AM ^

Hope thats not the case,  but with  Florida reportedly wanting to  play UCF,  we could land a better matchup.   There are two projections for venue, Peach or Fiesta but both with Gators. I'd have to think a school or two would like to boost their resume by potentially beating HB.

 

Perkis-Size Me

December 2nd, 2018 at 7:56 AM ^

What a dull, uninspiring matchup. Really hope it’s somehow LSU instead. 

No disrespect to Florida, but having to play them for the third time in four years would really suck. Honestly, I’d rather play anyone else.

uminks

December 2nd, 2018 at 8:01 AM ^

The only good things to come out of OSU making the 4th playoff spot is that Michigan would go to the Rose Bowl and I would get to watch Alabama curb stomp OSU in the playoffs.

SD Larry

December 2nd, 2018 at 8:05 AM ^

Like M Dog, think they should let UCF and Florida duke it out.  Fiesta would be great, nice weather, solid opponent, prestigious win opportunity to send out the lads the right way on a good season.

blueday

December 2nd, 2018 at 8:17 AM ^

Got to do something different to expect something different.  Do you expect anything different next year?  How about winning a big game for once.

BornInAA

December 2nd, 2018 at 9:12 AM ^

^^^This^^^

The Peach, Gator and Outback bowls are what you get when you are a middling Big Ten team. We didn't even win our division, much less the conference championship. At these bowls you play a middling SEC team with regional interest which are South Carolina, Florida and Mississippi State.

This is why we keep playing in the same bowls against the same teams.

Until we beat OSU and win the Big Ten we will always be in Bowl purgatory.

wolverine in the 216

December 2nd, 2018 at 8:41 AM ^

The lack of excitement for a potential Florida matchup shows the desire for a change to the playoff system. No one would be complaining about this if it was a hypothetical first round game in a 8 or 16 team model because there’s something to play for the following week. Get rid of these conference championships. 

Mannix

December 2nd, 2018 at 11:01 AM ^

Agreed. 

Other ludicrous things:

Divisions within conferences

Conferences still named for the number of teams they actually had in the 80’s

Five Conference commissioners who agreed to this stupid playoff format allowing 4 teams in knowing one P5, at minimum, would be left out as well as independents (their own fault)

Teams compelled to lobby for themselves like a beauty pageant instead of just playing in a playoff format. People can say “the whole season is a playoff”. Great, this is the only asinine level of football doing it this way and although I’m glad they ditched the voting system, do better. 

Arb lover

December 2nd, 2018 at 9:06 AM ^

Most people are assuming Alabama, Clemson, ND, and Oklahoma or OSU in the CFP. There are many more possible interesting matchups if they end up ranking teams like this:

1) Alabama

2) Clemson

3)Oklahoma

4) OSU

5) ND

6) Georgia

7) UCF

8) Michigan

9) Washington

10-13) some version of FLA, LSU, PSU, Wazzu

1VaBlue1

December 2nd, 2018 at 9:22 AM ^

Give up on the idea of ND moving out of the playoffs.  They won't.  Nor should they - OSU did absolutely nothing to move up beyond #5.  The B1G Championship was actually in doubt in the 4th quarter.  If they had any chance to jump OU, they had to beat the living shit out of NW from start to finish.  And they didn't come remotely close to doing that.  

Georgia lost a second game - they have nothing to whine about.  The top 4 is set.

greymarch

December 2nd, 2018 at 9:12 AM ^

The Peach Bowl is one of the BIG bowl games.  Its one of the selection committee bowl games. The Peach Bowl was recently elevated to a NY6 bowl.  Please do not confuse the Peach Bowl with the lesser (fruit-named) bowl games.  Going to the Peach Bowl signifies a damn good season.  When you think of the Peach Bowl, put it in the same tier as the Sugar bowl, Orange bowl, Rose bowl, Cotton bowl and Fiesta bowl.  THE PEACH BOWL IS ONE OF THE NY6 BOWL GAMES.

1VaBlue1

December 2nd, 2018 at 9:24 AM ^

You're missing the point.  The problem isn't the Peach Bowl itself, the problem is the (probable) matchup with Floriduh for the 3rd time in 4 years.  It's stale, and nobody wants to see it.  Not even the diehard Michigan fans like us!  I doubt that hardcore UF fans are anymore interested than us.  And the general public won't give a shit about it...

freelion

December 2nd, 2018 at 9:47 AM ^

Fuck the Peach Bowl

A beautiful dream season wasted because of poor coaching in road games. Same story as 2016. Now next year we will hear how they are a young team and need more time. Other teams go to national championship games with freshman QBs but our players have no hope of being productive until they are juniors and then they go to the NFL.

 

West Coast Struttin

December 2nd, 2018 at 9:58 AM ^

Osu playing that freshman receiver that torched us & NW last night. Meanwhile we have our fastest guy (Ambry Thomas) on the bench, & don't put him in to cover for Watson ... or use him on offense.