GoBlueInIowa

September 15th, 2013 at 12:16 PM ^

That is the risk you take when you try to center the ball. They should have just kicked the field goal rather than trying to center the ball. I agree that the refs should have spotted the ball faster (don't see anything wrong with what the ASU player did - that is the correct thing to do at that point) - Wisconsin should not have taken that risk

jmblue

September 15th, 2013 at 3:21 PM ^

But it's the refs' job to spot the ball.  They hate it when players try to spot it, and will always move it a little when that happens, just because.  The other thing is that when you hand the ref the ball, you avoid any shenanigans by defensive players (as the ASU DT successfully pulled off).

 

jmblue

September 15th, 2013 at 12:42 PM ^

That's the risk you take when you run a play inbounds.  Actually, only around 10-12 seconds went off in between the time when that play ended and when the final snap started, which isn't much at all for a play that doesn't stop the clock.  If you're going to run a play inbounds with 18 seconds, there is a real chance that it will end the game.

 

 

 

GoBlueInIowa

September 15th, 2013 at 1:17 PM ^

It is the correct play for the ASU player.

Here are the three options:

1. You get up, Wisconsin clocks the ball. Kicks easy field goal, you lose.

2. You sit in the ball, refs call you on it. 5 yard penalty. Wisconsin kicks easy field goal and you lose.

3. You sit on the ball until the ref finally makes you get up, confusion everywhere, time runs out and you win.

kurpit

September 15th, 2013 at 12:29 PM ^

They got screwed. The refs took 17 seconds to reset the ball. Part of the reason that it took 17 seconds was because ASU jumped on the ball after the whistle for some reason. That should have been delay of game on the defense, which would have meant that Wisconsin could have just taken their 5 yards and trotted the field goal unit onto the field for a chip shot to win the game. Wisconsin fans should be furious.

jmblue

September 15th, 2013 at 12:53 PM ^

It didn't take them that long.  The play started with 18 seconds.  By the time Stave had run over to the center of the field, taken a knee, and the officials had blown the play dead, a few seconds had elapsed.  The officials got everything lined up with 2 seconds left.  So it actually took them about 10-12 seconds, which is a pretty normal timelapse for getting everything set up after a play in bounds.   It could have been quicker still if Stave had just handed them the ball instead of trying to spot it himself.  But Wisconsin just shouldn't have called for a knee there.  That was a completely unnecessary risk.

 

 

 

SF Wolverine

September 15th, 2013 at 12:20 PM ^

That win clearly augered a drop; expect voters will look carefully the next couple of weeks to see whether we are more like the team that beat ND team or the team that scraped by Akron.

OSUMC Wolverine

September 15th, 2013 at 12:14 PM ^

The real question is why did our offensive line across the board get dominated by Akron???  Fifteen is too high considering the issues that were exposed yesterday.  And the fact that the ND win is looking a bit shallow now.

dothepose

September 15th, 2013 at 12:34 PM ^

If this is why they came out sluggish then their attitudes need to change. This type of attitude explains why we aren't a very good road team. They should realize that the stadium still had 107,000 crazy fans that were cheering their asses off on those 3rd downs in that final drive. Devin Gardner needs to be smarter, O-Line needs to play smarter, D-Line needs to start wrecking havoc. We get one game to see if we can find out spark, then a necessary bye week before Big Ten play. I think we will see whether or not his coaching staff is good or not. Let's be honest, our O-line and D-line have regressed each year since 2011, it's still early for 2013, but through 3 games we have a lot of work to do to get to what type of team we can and should be.

MGoRobo

September 15th, 2013 at 12:43 PM ^

That's the thing though...there weren't 107,000 crazy fans when they walked out at first. Might have been there by the end of the game, but frankly the rest of the student section needs to show up. That was hands down the worst showing I've ever seen at the student section. I understand it was magnified because of the new seating policy, but students need to be there on time. That was just embarrasing on AND off the field, and students should be ashamed of putting up such a lousy showing for kickoff.

enlightenedbum

September 15th, 2013 at 1:48 PM ^

The unique thing about college sports is the interaction between the athletes and the people who support them, primarily their fellow students.  If the students don't show up, it looks to the players like they're not being supported unless it's a huge game.  Which, especially with young kids, could probably affect play, yeah.

We have to keep remembering we basically don't have fourth year players.  Some fifth years, but the class of 2010 is largely gone.  Cripples leadership on an already young team.