Plenty of Blue Balls for 2019 CB Turner

Submitted by MaizeMN on
Looking at 247 recruiting, I see Sam Webb has put in a prediction for 2019 CB DJ Turner II. The pick is hidden behind a VIP paywall, but 100% of predictions are for Michigan, so I assume Sam's is, as well. Turner is a composite 3* (.8817), 5'11" 170 lbs. #435 nat'l rank, #39 CB, #46 GA. He has an impressive offer list, including: FL, AL, GA, AU, LSU, PSU, ND, OU, NE, TN, WI, MSU, Stanford, etc. Sounds like a good pick up, if Michigan gets a commitment. (Commence obligatory "but he's only a 3*" rants, below)

Champeen

May 16th, 2018 at 9:16 AM ^

Then based on that, why dont 25 corners rated ahead of him have a better offer list?

Are you young?  If you are, i give you a pass.

And you think looking at rankings is more important than looking at offers?  So your going to take the opinion of a handful of 25 - 35 year old dudes making 29k to 35k living in their moms basement and have never played football in their life over a handful of power 5 coaches making multi millions a year who have eat, shit, breathed football their entire life?

My biggest gripe are people who treat these rankings like gospel instead of atcually watching these kids with their own eyes and forming their own opinion.

Bluey

May 16th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^

I never really understood this opinion. Recruiting analysts are really good at what they do, otherwise the data on recruiting rankings wouldn't be so heavily skewed in their favor. They get to see these kids up close and personal at camps, combines, and 7on7 - often against each other - and make their evaluations. College coaches don't get that luxury. It's not a coincidence the teams that finish at the top of the recruiting rankings every year are the same ones competing for the CFP. If UM were signing more 4 and 5 star recruits like they should be, every UM fan would be bragging about it, but since they aren't now it's recruiting analysts are nerds and everyone should form their own opinion. Well I guess my opinion is that recruiting rankings matter and I'm going to adhere to them. If someone else would rather watch a 3 minute highlight tape and form their opinion that way that's their perogative, but they shouldn't be upset at the people who don't.

Bluey

May 16th, 2018 at 7:57 AM ^

It is when all your top targets have either eliminated you or a trending to other schools. 70% of high school recruits will make their college decision before their senior year and most of them will sign in the early period in December. The idea of it being early in the process is simply a false narrative.

OwenGoBlue

May 16th, 2018 at 8:31 AM ^

So if I'm following your comments this thread which schools have offered a recruit isn't a thing that matters nor is how much/when a staff makes them a priority?

I'm sure the 150ish 3 star and below guys who get drafted every year are just flukes and this staff couldn't possibly be identifying any of those, either.

We all know 5 stars are good, etc. but this constant fatalism with lower ranked guys must be an exhausting way to follow college football.

RiceIsBack

May 16th, 2018 at 10:04 PM ^

Wisconsin and Msu’s ceiling for recruiting will always be our floor. Before we can reach OSU levels (im not saying we cant beat them but being on equal footing) we need to at least maintain MSU/Wisconsin type success. Once we are there then we can make the next jump. We have the talent already for that. We need the (offensive) coaching to show up more than anything.

BoCanHam15

May 16th, 2018 at 8:57 AM ^

Old worn out depressed battle ax! Please go back into your trailer and pray for your real team. Then turn off your trolling motor. Then if you’re still bored go to RCMB or anywhere else that you’re welcomed.

Mr Miggle

May 16th, 2018 at 11:08 PM ^

by the Wolverines in the 2019 class and he's visited campus three times. - That's a quote from Steve Lorenz.

He's never been a tier 2 or 3 target for Michigan.

Keep trolling away. Cherry picking whatever negative information you can find as you always do.

 

reddogrjw

May 16th, 2018 at 9:14 AM ^

had 14 3-stars

1 never made it to campus (Dytarious Johnson)

3 are no longer with the program - Nate Johnson, Mbem-Bosse, Kingston Davis

4 are key contributors - Quinn Nordin, Khaleke Hudson, Josh Metellus, Seam McKeon

2 are looking to contibute this year - Devin Gil, Mike Dwumfour

2 are role players - Eddie McDoom, Steve Spanellis

2 still may contribute - Nick Eubanks, Josh Uche

 

Hudson, McDoom and Eubanks were all rated .88+ in the composite 247, so pretty high 3-stars, which is the rating Turner currently has

 

The staff seems to do well with identifying 3-stars that can contribute - and all of these are either Juniors or RS Sophomores

 

The 9 3-stars in the 2017 class either red-shirted or just got a cup of coffee last year except for Mason.  Woods, Paye and Stueber could all be in the mix this year

 

The bottom line is that while the miss rate is higher on 3-stars than 4-stars, the staff seems to be able to put them to good use or they work there way out of the program one way or the other - so if ones we miss on like Kingston Davis transfer our, we're just taking shots with them and processing them out if they can't contribute.

 

Albatross

May 16th, 2018 at 10:48 AM ^

Usually star ranking match up to offer lists, in this case the kid has a 4 star offer list which is probably what he should be. Harbaughs criticism is taking 3 stars with MAC offers. So you are recruiting a MAC player. As we saw last year, our talent pool is no where close to where it needs to be. So until Harbaugh proves his recruiting approach is good enough to level the OSU rivalry and actually win championships, he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt:

Alumnus93

May 16th, 2018 at 11:20 AM ^

Is it odd that he has made only one official visit (to Florida)  and now all crystal balls are to us..?.

bronxblue

May 16th, 2018 at 2:00 PM ^

The offer list is really solid, so my guess is that his ratings tick up as well.

Feels like recruiting is on an uptick recently, which is a positive for once.

MGoUberBlue

May 16th, 2018 at 3:59 PM ^

A 3* any day of the week with the potential to turn out like Khaleke Hudson or Josh Metellus.

Our coaching staff seems to make some of these guys turn out to be fabulous players.  It's up to the kid once he gets here.