"The Player and the Fan" Interview with Logan Tuley-Tillman

Submitted by MaizeInDC on October 18th, 2018 at 10:03 PM

Former UM OT Logan Tuley-Tillman was interviewed yesterday by Chris Howard on his podcast "The Player and the Fan." 

Tuley-Tillman says that there was an effort to bring him back on the team at one point.

Logan also discusses the mentorship non-profit he recently started, the Failure's Never Final Foundation.

Here's the link to the interview.

Comments

Indy Pete - Go Blue

October 18th, 2018 at 10:07 PM ^

LTT  mentioned multiple times that Harbaugh tried to allow him to come back into the program. He is still a Michigan fan and proud to be a Michigan graduate. You may get a few more warm fuzzies about the program after hearing this interview. 

ikestoys

October 18th, 2018 at 10:18 PM ^

If there was actually a push to have LTT back we have a big problem. There’s no room at Michigan for someone who records themselves having sex without the other persons knowledge. There’s no room for you either if you think that’s ok.

Edit: bet the downvoters thought urban was a real pos too. Pathetic. LTT is welcome to do the best he can after what he did, it there should have been no discussion of him coming back to the team.

Remember #settheexpectation? Good to know the board didn’t really believe that.

drjaws

October 19th, 2018 at 12:12 AM ^

No.  Letting him back on the team for a mistake is not the same as as a head coach (and others) covering up spousal abuse for years.

Thise things aren’t even in the same galaxy.

And you have made that comparison more than once.  You may not have meant to, but the way you’re wording your opinions makes the reader think you are.  Don’t blame us for your poor wording if that’s not really what you’re saying.

also, it would not have been coverup for Michigan if they let him back on the team.  He got busted and paid his penance, therefore, impossible to cover anything up.

ikestoys

October 19th, 2018 at 12:17 AM ^

Covering up sexual assault that was videotaped isn’t so different from covering up spousal abuse how again? LTTs victim said that she didn’t remember large parts of the night and big chunks of the sexual encounter and LTT managed to take two videos of the event without her knowledge. Maybe you think that’s really not that bad, but decent people realize that it is. Be a decent person.

drjaws

October 19th, 2018 at 12:22 AM ^

It was out in the public and he was kicked off the team and faced charges.

The discussion is over whether to LET HIM BACK ON THE TEAM.

Impossible to cover up an incident already reported on and the person involved already went through the legal system.

coverup = hiding 

letting him back on the team after not at all hiding anything, kicking him off the team and having go through the justice system is not a coverup in the least.

you are either ignorant or purposefully obstuse

Magnus

October 19th, 2018 at 8:29 AM ^

You should learn when it quit.

Or learn the definition of "cover-up."

I respect your belief that somebody who does that should not be allowed back on the team. Some people have different opinions. Lots of guys who have been in legal trouble have been allowed back on the team (Darryl Stonum, Graham Glasgow, Kevin Grady, Grant Perry, etc.), so there is precedent.

I haven't seen you railing that hard against Perry's return, but maybe I missed it. 

But the point remains that no cover-up would have been taking place.

marmot

October 18th, 2018 at 10:44 PM ^

Geez - you'd do well to calm down and breathe, kid.  Not that you'd actually listen to the interview, but LTT wasn't allowed back on the team for one reason or another.  That didn't happen and you're getting worked up over something you're playing out in your own head.

 

Lastly, yes, the Zach Smith situation and LTT's situations were pretty different.

ikestoys

October 19th, 2018 at 7:59 AM ^

What? 

 

"If there was actually a push to have LTT back we have a big problem."

 

Has been met with multiple people defending him having sex with someone who was incapacitated while filming. It's been met with multiple people saying they would have been ok with him coming back to the team. Hell, they're even saying "well if harbaugh had gone through proper channels" it would have been ok. That's exactly the defense OSU fans did with AA. We should be better than that.

What LTT did disqualified him from being at UM. Harbaugh should not have been pushing to get him back, as alleged in this interview.

m_go_T

October 18th, 2018 at 11:00 PM ^

So Grant Perry and LTT's situations were different but Zach Smith's and LTT's were the same. Got it. 

He was a kid that fucked up while drunk. Is it bad to take a video of yourself having consensual sex with someone who allegedly doesn't know? Of course it is. Is it the same as beating a woman or raping children and student athletes. IMO no and it's not even close. If you want someone to bash, Brandon Gibbons (and maybe Taylor Lewan) come to mind. 

Lastly if you listen to the interview, he has turned his life around and is now helping at risk kids do the same. I would take him over you and your high horse any day of the week. 

ikestoys

October 18th, 2018 at 11:08 PM ^

Allowing him to continue to represent Michigan would have made us no better than Meyer. I don’t care if LTT is doing good things these days, anyone arguing that he should have remained on the team is completely wrong. Set the expectation, remember when we all cheered that? Now when a player has sex with someone too drunk to know that they are being videotaped, suddenly that expectation gets dropped. Be better.

 

And yes ffs there’s a big difference between grabbing someone and what LTT did ffs. Wouldn’t have had any problem if Perry was gone as well. There’s no gray area for LTT, he had to go.

m_go_T

October 18th, 2018 at 11:38 PM ^

Everyone agrees that LTT was just as incapacitated.  This is not to say being drunk is an excuse for a sexual assault, but in this case, with these facts, I think you are being a little extreme.  Both parties agreed the sex was drunken, but consensual.  He screwed up when he used her phone to take a video.  This wasn't a case of sexual assault, as much as it was poor judgement by both parties. 

ohaijoe

October 19th, 2018 at 10:34 AM ^

Since you’re getting so much shit, I’ll say I agree with you, and I’m also uncomfortable with Perry being on the team. Commenters are acting like if you don’t yell “HE SHOULDN’T EVEN BE ON THE TEAM” every time Perry catches the ball, you’re a hypocrite. I think if we’re acting like we have the moral high ground with #settheexpectation, the expectation should be a hard line on sexual assault.

 

Can I see differences among Perry, LTT, Smith, and Meyer? Of course. But at the end of the day, they all failed to meet expectations.

drjaws

October 18th, 2018 at 11:52 PM ^

It’s different because Zach Smith was beating his wife multiple times over a number of years and it was covered up by adults who are supposed to be in charge.

LTT was a college kid who made a singular bad decision, kid the price, and turned his life in a positive direction.

The fact you can’t see that means there’s much more “wrong” with you than the rest of the people commenting here.