PFF Defense SCores

Submitted by Indonacious on September 17th, 2018 at 9:04 PM

Week 3 SMU Game:

Devin Bush = 83.1
Carlo Kemp = 75.5
Bryan Mone = 74.4
Brandon Watson = 73.2
Chase Winowich = 71.3

Good to see Kemp and Mone scoring well. Will be curious to see trend for Hill or Long going forward. 


Indy Pete - Go Blue

September 17th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^

Kemp and Mone were a revelation last game (Kemp stacked consecutive solid games).  We were all certain that Dwumfor and Solomon would make the interior strong, but Kemp and Mone have been a very pleasant surprise.  I am looking forward to having Solomon and Marshall back at full strength for depth.  The D is shaping up personnel wise to make a big run in the B1G games.


September 17th, 2018 at 11:19 PM ^

Reminds me of when people used to give Joey Bosa grief because his production as a Junior dipped from when he was a Sophomore. When you make a name for yourself as an elite DE, you're going to face triple and double teams consistently:


Plus, it wasn't like Bosa wasn't still putting up numbers... He still had 5 sacks, 16 TFLs, and 15 QB hurries on the season.

Gary should be fine.


September 18th, 2018 at 8:40 AM ^

Gary is drawing a lot of doubles so Kemp is making the plays.  They seem like the best anchor / 3-tech combo so far.   Mone is strong at NT but Winovich is way under rated in that PFF score.

What is up with our DBs?  Was Hurst that disruptive to opponents pass game?  I think so as it matters a lot having that extra 2 seconds in the pocket as it allows a bit more separation. 


September 18th, 2018 at 2:18 PM ^

i got downvoted for it, after the PFF for the secondary came out, as I thought their grades were "technically" correct, but opportunistically and the quality of their season last year was aided by the fact that the DL with Hurst (monster), Winovich, Gary, McCray, plus Bush and Hudson blitzing really propped up the duress the QB was under while throwing.

Hill and Long definitely made good use of what came their way last year, but their #1 Rank didn't feel like it was their own particular active, direct dominance. 

I realize PFF attempts to code and qualify their measurements, but regardless, you are ultimately equivocating players from different teams, in different schemes, etc.

Also there's the inevitable type-1 and type-2 errors when assigning a scalar to a single player.


September 18th, 2018 at 9:30 AM ^

Thanks for posting, interesting to see. The thing that always bugs me about this kind of scoring is that when you limit the maximum plus/minus (+2 vs. -2 according to ) you risk underreporting the impact of a specific play. I think Metellus's pick-6 counts there, as it was such an incredibly huge play, giving us a 10-point swing with one play.