November 5th, 2014 at 12:04 PM ^
November 5th, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^
We can't have nice things it turns out.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:16 PM ^
I'm pleased its happening with the season nearly washed out and there is alot of life left in his career in terms of what he can do for UM beginning next season.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:18 PM ^
I really don't think it sucks that much. I mean, what was he really going to do for us at this point in the season? He is supposed to be quite the ball player, but we haven't seen enough to know for sure if he is a game changer at this time.
He got some college experience under his belt. This season won't amount to much. All we can hope for is making a bowl game, possible Win vs Ohio St. and maybe a bowl victory. I highly doubt all three of those things can or would happen even if we did get Jabril back this week. Hopefully we can just make a bowl game, so the players can get 15 more practices.
Might as well, let him keep practicing for next year. Be able to start fresh and healthy %100.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:23 PM ^
feel like players are typically the same after something like this happens. I know that it may not seem rational to think that, but I just question whether he will be the same player when he comes back.
November 5th, 2014 at 2:32 PM ^
It doesn't suck that he's getting a medical redshirt. What sucks is that the 5-star, top-3 player in the country (or so) has missed most of this season.
November 5th, 2014 at 2:58 PM ^
going to type a response to this but you summed up exactly what I would've said. Why even put him out there at this point? No reason. Season is shot and that's OK - let's get him out there under a new coach that can put him in a position to succeed and develop.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^
As long as he can rehabilitate from his injury successfully, this is amazing. This season was a wash and there's was no point in him really playing again and risking further injury for naught. Now he's got a full 4 years, presumably under a new regime, to have an impact on this program. Sucks for him in the the short term, but goddamn if that ain't might fine delayed gratification that will end up being in the best interest for all parties in the long run.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:47 PM ^
TBH, the "there's no point in him playing" perspective is a selfish fan's perspective. If he can play and wants to play, he should play regardless of the team's record.
Also, if the redshirt is relevant (meaning Jabrill stays at Michigan 5 years), it probably means Jabrill has an underwhelming career. Personally I'd prefer to see him take the superstar tragectory and leave for the NFL after three years, making the fifth year of eligibility a moot point.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:57 PM ^
But if he is at risk of aggrevating the injury, then I'm glad he is taking the proper time to recover and rehabilitate.
November 5th, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^
because he will be 3 years removed from high school at that point and draft eligible
November 5th, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^
If he pans out the way the #2 recruit in the country should though, I doubt he's going to be around for his a fifth season. He'll have already graduated and would be passing up Scrooge McDuck money. Hard to imagine he ever uses the extra eligibility.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:40 PM ^
Here's why I don't think it sucks. I would rather see him take the time off and heal fully than get thrown in playing with a "boo boo" to try and save anyone's job. The staff is still being honorable here. I just want him to come back strong next year.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:05 PM ^
And by 'medical redshirt', they actually mean just 'redshirt'.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:09 PM ^
...it is a medical redshirt. He can't take a regular redshirt, because he played this year.
The way it might matter down the road is that he could conceivably be awarded a sixth year if he missed most of another season due to injury. He likely won't be on campus that long, though, so it probably won't be an issue.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:36 PM ^
Yes, I suppose I was incorrect. Since he played this year, he can't get any type of redshirt this year, medical or not. He's just done for the year. He can only get an a 'medical redshirt' at the end of his eligability. Being technically correct is the best kind of correct after all.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^
Actually, I don't think that is correct at all. You have to apply to the NCAA for a medical redshirt, a process that can be done at anytime. Once that's done and granted, this year becomes a redshirt. If it happens before next season he will be a RS-Fr.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:45 PM ^
November 5th, 2014 at 1:23 PM ^
I'm pretty sure, as this has been discussed often on this site, that a medical hardship waiver to extend eligability is not actually granted until that eligability is almost up. Like UM filed Gardner's paperwork somewhere early 2011 I believe, but didn't get the medical redshirt granted until 2013, about two years later. Eligability is extended at the end only if still needed. However, with the quagmire of NCAA and conference rules, I could be mistaken. I don't think I am though.
November 5th, 2014 at 5:38 PM ^
Technically he is currently eligable.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:46 PM ^
Not technically correct at all, actually.
November 5th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^
I think you mean Not technically correct at all, technically.
November 5th, 2014 at 8:09 PM ^
Actually, not techically correct at all.
November 5th, 2014 at 1:46 PM ^
You can apply for a medical hardship waiver (it isn't actually a redshirt) at any point during your career - you do not have to wait until your eligibility expires.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^
Medical redshirts really only come into play for granting a sixth year of elligibility. You get your normal 4 to play 5, and a medical redshirt can grant a sixth year. So technically, its a medical redshirt, but in all likelihood if it ever comes up it'll philosophically be more like a redshirt/5th year.
But in reality none of it really matters since Peppers probably won't be here four years let alone five or six.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:36 PM ^
A "medical redshirt" means a "medical hardship" under the rules. It means that a year is not counted as a season of competition (you get 4) even though normally playing one down uses up one of those seasons. If Peppers didn't get a medical redshirt, this would count as his first season of competition because he played in 2 games (ASU, Miami).
There is a separate waiver that can be sought of the 5 year rule but a "medical redshirt" normally refers to getting back a year where a player played in a few games then got hurt.
November 5th, 2014 at 1:25 PM ^
Not sure what you guys are getting out of what I wrote, but that's the same as what I said. Medical redshirts/medical hardships don't matter at all until you've exhausted all of your other eligibility. We went through this with Devin Gardner when there were questions on whether or not his medical hardship had been granted. DG had redshirted one season before he got hurt and they went after a medical hardship for him. But that would only kick in once he exhausted all of his other eligibility.
Maybe you're getting caught up on the whole philosophical thing. My point with that is that before the medical hardship, Peppers had 4 years left to play 3 seasons. Meaning he still could take a normal redshirt season. But Peppers isn't going to redshirt because he's too damn good. So Michigan was really only looking at the possibility of having him for a max of three more seasons of playing time.
With the medical hardship now a factor, that restores a full season of play for Peppers, meaning Michigan can now get a max of four more years out of Jabrill. And because he won't be taking a normal redshirt season, philosophically this medical hardship waiver will make Jabrill -- if he's still here at that point -- the same as a fifth year senior that redshirted the normal route.
November 5th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^
DG didn't redshirt one season before he got hurt.
DG has played in 5 seasons, 2010-2014.
November 5th, 2014 at 2:21 PM ^
You're right. For some reason I thought he redshirted his freshman year.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:40 PM ^
when you are hilariously wrong.
November 5th, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^
What part of what I said is wrong? You get five years to play four seasons in college. If you play any part of any game, that counts as a season. Because Peppers played this season, he still had four years left to play three seasons. But, because they are going to go after a medical hardship/redshirt for him, that restores a season for him. So instead of four years to play three seasons, he's back to having five to play four. He's essentially a member of the 2015 recruiting class now.
And again, none of this really matters because he'll likely never be around that long to make use of the extra years.
November 5th, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^
"Medical redshirts really only come into play for granting a sixth year of elligibility."
That statement is wrong. You are wrong.
November 5th, 2014 at 2:27 PM ^
Goddamn people, if you're going to keep saying I'm wrong, please tell how I'm wrong.
EDIT: You know what? Don't tell me how I'm wrong. I'm so goddamn tired of explaining how redshirts work to people I really don't care anymore. Believe whatever the hell you want. Infinite eligibility for everyone.
November 5th, 2014 at 3:11 PM ^
A player could have played part of a season and still get a medical redshirt. That's why a medical redshirt matters. DG would not be playing this year if he didn't get a medical redshirt since he played in 2010. DG played 5 seasons in 5 years. If they let players take a regular redshirt even if they played 1/4 or 1/3 of the season (whatever the rule is) then every team would play all of their freshman in the first 3 or 4 games to see if someone might break out and be able to help them that year and still redshirt the rest.
November 5th, 2014 at 8:12 PM ^
The only way he could get back to having five years would be if he were injured again, and was granted a medical hardship waiver. See; Joe Bauserman.
edit: goddamnit, this was a reply to burgers above.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:07 PM ^
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November 5th, 2014 at 12:10 PM ^
She's ok, but I prefer this Pepper...
November 5th, 2014 at 12:05 PM ^
He won't stay for the entirety of his eligibility anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:09 PM ^
to mess with the Press's collective "minds."
The OP did list Pepper, singular, so it's still possible Jabrill Peppers, plural, save us against the Bucks.
Right.......RIGHT??????/
November 5th, 2014 at 12:14 PM ^
November 5th, 2014 at 12:15 PM ^
November 5th, 2014 at 12:17 PM ^
pot shot
November 5th, 2014 at 1:03 PM ^
November 5th, 2014 at 12:20 PM ^
We don't talk about injuries.
November 5th, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^
Any real definitive understanding or explanation of what's up medically with Peppers? ACL? Something else?
November 5th, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^
Peppers isn't shy about using twitter. I'm sure if he wanted everyone to know what part of his body would be susceptible to being reinjured next year he'd tweet about it.